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#1 17-06-14 08:00:09

AUTAX
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Failed with one Serious and 1 Driver Fault

I had a lady come back off of her test yesterday having committed a serious fault within 500 yards from the start of her test. She asked the Examiner was it a fail and he said, "I'm afraid so.".

Well she carried on and came back having committed one Driver Fault. The Examiner was very sympathetic but praising in the rest of her drive. Arriving at a roundabout on the Independent drive she was in the wrong lane but told the Examiner what she was going to do to correct it, Go round to another roundabout and then return. Very complimentary.

Unfortunately, she now has to wait 6-8 weeks for another test. The lady is disabled and worked very hard to get where she has. To carry on knowing that the outcome will be a fail says a lot about her determination in life.


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Re: Failed with one Serious and 1 Driver Fault




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#2 17-06-14 12:54:32

Coasting Mart
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Re: Failed with one Serious and 1 Driver Fault

So, what was the serious?


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#3 17-06-14 14:02:08

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Re: Failed with one Serious and 1 Driver Fault

I wonder what an examiner thinks when he/she fails a pupil for whatever reason but knowing that the drive was a lot better/safer than some of the pathetic/dangerous driving he/she sees whilst out on test from some full licence holders.

Suppose they think they have kept another not as pathetic/dangerous but a little bit safer driver off the road.


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#4 17-06-14 17:07:02

kaf
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Re: Failed with one Serious and 1 Driver Fault

Discussed this with one a few months ago.

" frustrating, but have to stick to the rules"

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#5 17-06-14 17:42:09

Laurence Jacquemin ADI
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Re: Failed with one Serious and 1 Driver Fault

When the pupil asked if they had failed I was under the impression that the examiners were not suppose to answer, or say something like "I can't say". If this incorrect? If the pupil asks will the examiner say, yes you have now failed, or does it depend on examiner?

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#6 17-06-14 22:04:14

AUTAX
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Re: Failed with one Serious and 1 Driver Fault

At This Point the candidate is asked to take the next road on the right. On approach it is seen to be a divided road in a housing estate. Give way road markings are clear, the words NO ENTRY are clearly marked at the mouth of the first lane and there is a large white arrow on a blue circle pointing to the second lane.

The lady has taken this right turn on a several occasions. It is a common occurrence for candidates to attempt to take the first lane even though it is a "Hotspot" pointed out by most ADIs in the Bournemouth area.

No question of a fail: it's just unfortunate that it happens within the first couple of minutes before the nerves have settled.

To answer Laurence's question, it is the candidates right to ask and be told if the test result will be a fail following a mistake committed, requiring the examiner taking verbal or physical action. The candidate then has the option of asking that the test be either terminated and walk back or to request that the candidate be guided back to the test centre.

However, I was sat in the back when my cheeky girl student asked the examiner how she was doing. He said, "Sorry I don't do half time scores!" which made us all laugh. She passed.


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#7 05-07-14 15:58:28

metalmicky
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Re: Failed with one Serious and 1 Driver Fault

Laurence Jacquemin ADI wrote:

When the pupil asked if they had failed I was under the impression that the examiners were not suppose to answer, or say something like "I can't say". If this incorrect? If the pupil asks will the examiner say, yes you have now failed, or does it depend on examiner?


If a candidate asks if they have failed, the examiner will not normally confirm whether they have or haven't but if they insist on knowing or ask repeatedly (more than twice), the examiner will normally confirm that a serious fault will be recorded.


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