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#1 27-09-13 17:30:10

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Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing

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Re: Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing




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#2 27-09-13 22:12:03

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Re: Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing

Hi
The sentence in the 3rd para " If either of these weights are exceeded it is possible that a Court may take the view that this constitutes a danger" is hardly definitive!

That is all if's, but's and maybe's

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#3 28-09-13 06:18:28

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Re: Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing

As usual the DVLA make it up as they go along.


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#4 28-09-13 08:43:17

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Re: Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing

pegasus wrote:

Hi
The sentence in the 3rd para " If either of these weights are exceeded it is possible that a Court may take the view that this constitutes a danger" is hardly definitive!

That is all if's, but's and maybe's

No its not because it is referring to the manufacturers max towing capacity which if exceeded would require a court to determine whether that was unsafe or not
there is no law which states that exceeding that limit is unlawful

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#5 28-09-13 10:26:44

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Re: Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing

What is the offence that gets the person before the Court for them to make a decision?

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#6 28-09-13 11:50:33

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Re: Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing

DLVA can only give opinions, the courts have to decide the law.

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#7 28-09-13 12:34:18

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Re: Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing

trunkmonkey wrote:

What is the offence that gets the person before the Court for them to make a decision?

unsafe combination under C&U regs 100 I think


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#8 05-10-13 12:54:58

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Re: Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing

(ROG) wrote:
pegasus wrote:

Hi
The sentence in the 3rd para " If either of these weights are exceeded it is possible that a Court may take the view that this constitutes a danger" is hardly definitive!

That is all if's, but's and maybe's

No its not because it is referring to the manufacturers max towing capacity which if exceeded would require a court to determine whether that was unsafe or not
there is no law which states that exceeding that limit is unlawful

This was why I asked the last question.
There are offences for exceeding axle weights,gross weights and train weight under the Road Traffic Act. They are Fixed Penalty offences, not carrying an endorsement.

Additionally, if that overloading constitutes a danger there is an additional offence under Reg. 100 and that carries a heavier penalty of 3 points.

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#9 05-10-13 16:35:49

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Re: Definitive reply from DVLA on B licence towing

I re-read it and yes, they have cocked up - there are fixed penalties for exceeding any plated weight  - the towing capacity is the one where the court would need to decide


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