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#1 26-12-12 17:00:53

Ghost Rider
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Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

Teaching a banned drivier, on passing his retest would he keep his old entitlements (be,c1,c1e etc) or have to resit extra tests.

He passed his first test prior to the change in the rules.

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#2 26-12-12 17:52:27

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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

He gets them all back on passing retest unless there is a medical reason or the TC decides that giving back any C or D categories is inapropriate


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#3 27-12-12 20:59:05

chevronjohn
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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

(ROG) wrote:

He gets them all back on passing retest unless there is a medical reason or the TC decides that giving back any C or D categories is inapropriate

I'm not sure this is the case Rog - I was recently contacted by someone who was banned and only received the current cat b( up to 3.5 tonne) when his licence was reinstated, having had a pre 1997 licence previously.

Not all bans require a retest but almost certainly a retest would only give them a " new " cat b category.

I stand to be corrected  smile

John


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#4 27-12-12 22:10:10

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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

Wessex wrote:

I remember a guy getting banned for DD and after the ban finished he had to go to court to ask for his HGV entitlement back. It didn't automatically get re-instated.

Thats why I mentioned the C & D categories - they are controlled by the TC and not by DVLA

If only B comes back after a retest then ask DVLA why the rest have noot been put back on - the usual two answers are ... oops we forgot ... or .... the TC is considering them

B+E should come back for deffo if it was there before


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#5 27-12-12 22:14:01

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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

An old mate of mine with LGV CE got a DD ban and a retest and was asked what category he would like to take the restest in - B C CE etc
I saw the paperwork so I know it true

He chose B but then had to plead with the TC for the LGV ones

I do wonder what would have happened if he had chosen CE to do the retest in ........

That was about 3 years ago


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#6 28-12-12 18:28:40

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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

Spoke to the test centre manager today, his answer was that he would only recieve his car entitlement back.

He would need to take test for trailer etc.

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#7 28-12-12 19:02:39

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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

Ghost Rider wrote:

Spoke to the test centre manager today, his answer was that he would only recieve his car entitlement back.

He would need to take test for trailer etc.

Try emailing DVLA for a definitive because the DSA know nowt about licence issues


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#8 28-12-12 19:21:44

Daveyboy
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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

Had a pupil a few years back that was ordered to retest.

At the time the only retest that could be ordered was on Cat B, not sure this has changed.

He did hold a LGV 1. On passing the test he had to write to the Traffic Commissioner to have his LGV licence reinstated.

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#9 28-12-12 20:34:06

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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

Hi
I would go with chevronjohn's belief; I think that because they have to get a new provisional and pass a test they have become a post '97 licence holder so all grandfather rights have been lost.

It used to be that one test allowed a replacement of other groups ie pass on a car and get your bike licence back if you previously had one and the offence had some bearing on whether you automatically got the higher groups (C or D etc ) back, but there is nothing on the DfT site to indicate that that is still the case.

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#10 02-01-13 13:49:45

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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

Dear Mr *******

Thank you for your email received on 29/12/12. Your email reference number is 1121083.




I can confirm, an appropriate test pass in category B entitles a driver to have all previously held entitlements restored.

If a driver is disqualified until test or extended test pass and also holds vocational entitlement, the magistrates' court does not require a further retest on the vocational categories, however, these may be subject to a conduct review with the Commissioner at the Traffic Area Office in the licence holders area.


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#11 02-01-13 19:14:35

Ghost Rider
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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

Thanks ROG, that will be good news to my pupil.

Like you said always best to investigate further.

Thanks for all your help again....

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#12 02-01-13 19:41:00

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Re: Would a banned drivier keep his old entitlements

Ghost Rider wrote:

Thanks ROG, that will be good news to my pupil.

Like you said always best to investigate further.

Thanks for all your help again....

I was absolutely certain I had it correct but thought others would like to see an official answer


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