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#1 08-12-11 15:07:44

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Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Don't know what everyone thinks about this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/new … rways.html

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#2 08-12-11 21:34:50

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Well, once they cope well with short, hidden on-ramps, lay-bys, petrol stations, high-speed roundabouts and crossings on NSL d/c's, motorways are another lesson but an easy extension to what has already been mastered.


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#3 09-12-11 08:23:24

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

This might stop the 'fear' that some learners feel about this


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#4 09-12-11 08:38:21

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Are their many places that do NOT have a motorway near? if so that would mean that many learners would have to pay out a lot more for longer leasons so they can get to a motorway (if you know what I mean) :oops:

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#5 11-12-11 07:40:37

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Are their many places that do NOT have a motorway near? if so that would mean that many learners would have to pay out a lot more for longer leasons so they can get to a motorway (if you know what I mean) :oops:

The countyS of NORFOLK and SUFFOLK do not have a Motorway between them!!

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#6 11-12-11 07:49:35

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Are their many places that do NOT have a motorway near? if so that would mean that many learners would have to pay out a lot more for longer leasons so they can get to a motorway (if you know what I mean) :oops:

There are quite a few areas.  Which is why the minister has said it won't become compulsory. 

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#7 11-12-11 10:38:30

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Gizmotime wrote:

Are their many places that do NOT have a motorway near? if so that would mean that many learners would have to pay out a lot more for longer leasons so they can get to a motorway (if you know what I mean) :oops:

There are quite a few areas.  Which is why the minister has said it won't become compulsory.

I know here in Bolton we are ok for getting to motorways, so are Manchester/Bury/Liverpool, I was just thinking about the one's out in the sticks (so to speak)

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#8 11-12-11 11:39:01

kjs
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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

If the test candidate is not going to be tested on a motorway, should that stop anyone with a motorway close by from teaching on one ?

for years we have argued the fact, and in some cases campaigned for, the right to be allowed to take learners on a motorway, yet now that it would seem we are finally going to be allowed to do it, on many forumsi go on, i read ADI's complaining and throwing in stumbling blocks has to why we shouldn't do it. come people, get your act togeather

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#9 11-06-12 14:53:18

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Learners do need some motorway experience. The current system is crazy. Somebody who has just passed their test can drive on a motorway without any prior experience.

I always offer a free motorway lessons when the pupil has passed and I find that this encourages them to book more motorway lessons when they realize how scary the motorway can be.

I do believe that only a qualified ADI should be allowed to take a learner driver on the motorway.

Anyway must dash late for a lesson smile


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#10 03-07-12 20:56:02

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

End of the pass plus then ???????????????????????????

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#11 04-07-12 07:50:05

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Dave Robinson wrote:

End of the pass plus then ???????????????????????????

If the majority of PP is for motorway then yes but not the end of post test training if they want more

A set of post test modules devised by ADIs could be the PP replacement - backed up by uniformed certificates approved by the DSA ??????????????


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#12 04-07-12 08:00:19

Pilgrim
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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

How about a BTEC level 2 in Safe Driving wink

There are insurance companies giving up to 15% discounts


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#13 04-07-12 09:37:37

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Pilgrim wrote:

How about a BTEC level 2 in Safe Driving wink

There are insurance companies giving up to 15% discounts

Now that looks interesting - what is involved?


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#14 04-07-12 12:32:45

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

How about looking at Anydriver.co.uk

I'm registered view my details on my website


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#15 04-07-12 12:35:36

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

This should be a compulsory second tier by the look of it


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#16 04-07-12 12:46:27

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Keep talking if you want more information please contact me directly so we can talk.

I can also offer edriving training now happy to give more info


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#17 10-07-12 18:49:29

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

I understand the proposed rules to let learner drivers use the motorways comes into force this summer. If this is correct, any ideas when?  I trained and got qualified to deliver the Btec in Safe driving with AnyDriver but found little interest from the students as the price I would need to charge to cover the extra work load (lotsa reports and paperwork ontop of an already busy schedule) put them off.

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#18 10-07-12 19:18:23

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

kinghamssom wrote:

I understand the proposed rules to let learner drivers use the motorways comes into force this summer. If this is correct, any ideas when?

Unless I've missed it, they haven't even produced the draft legislation. Maybe next summer, but don't hold your breath.

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#19 11-07-12 07:17:39

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

Unless I've missed it, they haven't even produced the draft legislation. Maybe next summer, but don't hold your breath.

Yup, these things take time... lots of time!


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#20 04-08-12 16:30:59

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

I think the new BTec in Safe Driving includes a motorway driving unit. I understand there are reduced insurance premium incentives for completing this course. Could it be the insurance companies requirement rather than enforced regulation that encourage motorway training?

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#21 26-03-13 17:28:41

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

I taught people to drive for over 20 years and only did 3 lessons on the motorway.
I live approx. 5 miles (20 mins) from the M5.
Low take up rate was COST i.e. TIME is MONEY. You need at least 3 hours to do a decent Motorway lesson and charge almost 4 times the fee to cover time AND fuel if you want to make a profit!!!
As usual these ideas are not always logistically sound! Incidentally, this was suggested in 1992 when I began teaching and still hasn't become popular...


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#22 09-07-13 10:00:42

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

I think this is a good idea, living where we do in Shrewsbury the nearest motorway is the M54 which leads onto the M6 which is one of the most frantic motorways in the country, there is no consideration for others on the M6 and always road works blocking one lane or another and then you have Spaghetti junction which is like its name a complete maze of roads, for learner drivers in my neck of the woods I think this is a great idea as so many new drivers once they pass their test are too frightened to go any further than the M54 as the M6 is daunting to any driver not just new drivers it can put people off traveling on the motorway on a good day.  Nothing can be more frightening than joining the M6 with a lorry to your left and another lorry on your right handside you feel like your sandwiched in and a sheer panic can come over you, this is when it becomes dangerous for you to be on the road not just for yourself but for others too plus many motorists rush about cutting people up, the M6 is not something to be handled by a new driver with no motorway experience and for this reason I think its a good idea for learner drivers to have motorway lessons. In my opinion I think that the majority of the driving skills should have been taught and mastered before the pupil is taken onto the motorway but this can vary from pupil to pupil in practice only the driving instructor and pupil will know when the pupil is ready for the motorway.


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#23 09-07-13 17:40:07

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Re: Learner drivers to be allowed to drive on motorways from next year.

With regard to the BTEC A2OM also produce a BTEC qualification through their DRIVE-IQ product (or at least used to)

http://www.driveiq.co.uk/Home


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