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#1 19-04-12 16:14:32

Gracie Jits
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CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

I passed my HGV/LGV Class 2 Cat C at the end of last year, and I have done all 4 mods.

Because I am unemployed, I was successful in applying for my ILA Scotland learner account, which will pay up to £200 for approved courses.

I may as well start doing my 35 hours, before my CPC runs out in 2017.  What I am wanting to know is where is the best place to do CPC training in the greater Glasgow area?

I've not driven a Class 2 since passing my test as everyone demands 2 years experience, which is a catch 22.

I don't know how to work a digital tachograph, or how to load a lorry properly.  Putting a chain around some stupid little cage is nothing like a real lorry.

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#2 19-04-12 18:26:33

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Anything practical will likely cost an arm and a leg

So its all going to be classroom/theory based unless you want to pay a lot

I am not from that area so do not know who to recommend but can suggest that you google for  - driver cpc glasgow - and see what comes up

Oh - WELCOME

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#3 19-04-12 18:38:22

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Another suggestion - visit www.trucknetuk.com and select forums


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#4 19-04-12 19:56:37

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Copy and paste the link below:

http://www.drivercpc-periodictraining.o … asgow~&p=1

This  gets you onto the official driver cpc site.
There are two pages of CPC providers in the Glasgow area. Click on the company to see what courses they provide.

For instance Carntyne Transport offer a Digital Tachograph/WTD course and the objectives are
to give advice and instruction on drivers hours / WTD / Tachographs - Digital and Analogue, advice on correct use of Tachograph.

(I have no association with that or any other company in Glasgow).

Before you book, ask if the training will cover basic use of a digi-tacho.  CPC is designed to reinforce a skill that's already there.
You may need a course starting from scratch. That may or may not be a CPC accredited course.

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#5 19-04-12 20:00:48

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

I use a company in Bathgate called CTTS for my driver cpc periodic training.


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#6 21-04-12 21:12:58

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Thanks everyone.

According to Truck Monkey's link Cardonald College does Drivers CPC.  But it does not appear that way on the College website, so I emailed the College contact on the link.

If I get no answer from them, then I will contact GTG instead.  I live near Cardonald College so I would prefer to go there, plus I have to drive passed Cardonald College in order to get to GTG.


Also does anyone have any tips regarding job hunting?

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#7 22-04-12 09:53:05

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Gracie Jits wrote:

Thanks everyone.

According to Truck Monkey's link Cardonald College does Drivers CPC.  But it does not appear that way on the College website, so I emailed the College contact on the link.

If I get no answer from them, then I will contact GTG instead.  I live near Cardonald College so I would prefer to go there, plus I have to drive passed Cardonald College in order to get to GTG.


Also does anyone have any tips regarding job hunting?

When you go down the list you will see that Cardonald College are registered to provided CPC training to LGV/PCV.
But underneath under 'Course Name' , they haven't registered any courses.

You will see this a lot. You register the company (£1500) and then register the course (£252). Some companies register themselves and then await interest before registering courses.

Seems daft, we did it all together.

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#8 22-04-12 10:06:36

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Gracie Jits wrote:

Also does anyone have any tips regarding job hunting?

YES

Make sure you have held the licence for 2 years and be over age 25


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#9 23-04-12 17:43:33

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Looks like it will be GTG then.

This stupid 2 year rule makes no sense.  Pass your HGV test and then wait 2 years until you can use it, and your standard of driving is dangerously below test standard, as you have not driven a HGV in 2 years.

Knowing what I know now, I should have gone for the PCV licence, as first bus are snapping people up with PCV licence's.

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#10 06-05-12 20:07:47

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Dont just jump in to going with GTG, source other training bodies and costs first, you have plenty time, and may well find employment with a company who covers the cost.

I cover DCPC outwith my fulltime employment, but my costs are based on how many delegetes are on the course, the more there are, the cheaper it gets. Try sourcing other companies that do likewise.
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#11 09-05-12 21:03:26

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

I was told that I would be wasting money do the tachograph CPC Module at GTG, as you can learn how to use them on you tube.

As all CPC courses seem to be useless classroom Crap, were you are nowhere near a truck.  I went for a refresher course, so I can drive a truck and not sit in a boring classroom.

It says on the ILA website that Ritchies do a 6 hour Refresher Course for £240, so I send Ritchies an email and got this reply:

Hi

Due to a recent price increase the cost is £200.00 for a 4 hour Refresher Course.

These are normally held on a Saturday but either myself of a colleague will call you back with a date.

Regards

So I replied to that email saying that I would do the 4 hour refresher instead.  I also asked if I could use the tachograph during the refresher course, but no one as got back to me and this was on the 1st of May.

I would prefer not to be sitting in some boring classroom, which I see as a money making scheme.  Learning to drive and load trucks safely for CPC etc, should be done at and in a truck.  Not some boring classroom.

AL if the EK part in your user name stands for East Kilbride, you might be able to help with an idea I got from www.trucknetuk.com

Instead of phoning companies or sending them CV's etc.  Some people have got lucky by knocking on the door and asking for work.
But I don't know where I could try.

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#12 10-05-12 06:25:53

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

That 4 hours cannot be a DCPC approved course as they must be either 7 hours or 2 x 3.5 hours over 24 hours


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#13 10-05-12 06:28:28

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Gracie Jits wrote:

I would prefer not to be sitting in some boring classroom, which I see as a money making scheme.  Learning to drive and load trucks safely for CPC etc, should be done at and in a truck.  Not some boring classroom.

If you wish to pay loads of money then you can have that non classroom DCPC  - no problem


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#14 12-05-12 19:44:06

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Ah yes I forgot to say that, while I was looking at CPC courses I could only see boring classroom courses that would not have been of great help.
So I decided that since I have 5 years until I have to do the 35 hours, I may as well do something that lets me drive a truck.  Plus before starting most HGV jobs, you seem to get an assessment drive with a hard reverse.  Fail that and you don't get the job sad

So the 4 hour refresher, would be of much better use than sitting in some boring classroom.

I take it those non classroom CPC courses are a lot more than £200?

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#15 26-06-12 19:40:48

EKAL
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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Gracie Jits wrote:

Ah yes I forgot to say that, while I was looking at CPC courses I could only see boring classroom courses that would not have been of great help.
So I decided that since I have 5 years until I have to do the 35 hours, I may as well do something that lets me drive a truck.  Plus before starting most HGV jobs, you seem to get an assessment drive with a hard reverse.  Fail that and you don't get the job sad

So the 4 hour refresher, would be of much better use than sitting in some boring classroom.

I take it those non classroom CPC courses are a lot more than £200?

Hi Gracie Jits, sorry for late reply, been a busy boy lately, plus laptop crashed - yeah EK is for East Kilbride

As far as "boring" classroom DCPC is concerned, it may look that way, and to be honest, as a trainer I sometimes don't look forward to some of the classroom courses, but most pan out to be informative enough, and depending how "interactive" the delegates are, the day can pass quick enough.


Q - did you get any luck with Tacho/WTD courses? I have a tacho simulator file, its 16.8mb, you should be able to get one easy enough.

anything else, give me a shout, and not ALL companies look for 2 years experience driving.

AL


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#16 28-06-12 22:06:53

Gracie Jits
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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

I was told not to waste my ILA doing any Tacho courses, as you can learn how to use them on You Tube.

I have phoned and emailed both Ritchies and CTTS several times regarding the ILA account courses they offer, which gets you out in a HGV.  CTTS offer the best one, which counts towards your DCPC.

But I have been ignored by both of them, and I am P'ed off at them.  I bet if I was paying cash, they would not be ignoring me.

I have a HNC in Computing as well as the A+ qualification, so I was thinking of using the ILA to do the updated version of the A+ just to keep me up to date.

I was also thinking about starting up on my own as an ADI, but I don't have the funds to start up on my own.  I've have my green since 2009 and don't want to get rusty and fail a check test.
I've not taught a learner since the end of 2010, and the last time I was out with my trainer was May last year.

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#17 29-06-12 07:10:35

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Gracie Jits wrote:

Ah yes I forgot to say that, while I was looking at CPC courses I could only see boring classroom courses that would not have been of great help.
So I decided that since I have 5 years until I have to do the 35 hours, I may as well do something that lets me drive a truck.  Plus before starting most HGV jobs, you seem to get an assessment drive with a hard reverse.  Fail that and you don't get the job sad

So the 4 hour refresher, would be of much better use than sitting in some boring classroom.

I take it those non classroom CPC courses are a lot more than £200?

I'll apologise if I've missed something here because it hasn't been picked up.

You don't have 5 years. You have until September 2014. The 5 years started in 2009 and gave everyone in need of periodic training until 2014.
That was when your clock started ticking.

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#18 29-06-12 08:15:34

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

trunkmonkey wrote:

I'll apologise if I've missed something here because it hasn't been picked up.

You don't have 5 years. You have until September 2014. The 5 years started in 2009 and gave everyone in need of periodic training until 2014.
That was when your clock started ticking.

5 years from when they did initial dcpc modules which I think the OP did...... not certain of that

The 5 years up to 09/09/2014 is only for those who had any LGV C1 to CE category on 10/09/2009


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#19 29-06-12 17:45:27

EKAL
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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

(ROG) wrote:
trunkmonkey wrote:

I'll apologise if I've missed something here because it hasn't been picked up.

You don't have 5 years. You have until September 2014. The 5 years started in 2009 and gave everyone in need of periodic training until 2014.
That was when your clock started ticking.

5 years from when they did initial dcpc modules which I think the OP did...... not certain of that

The 5 years up to 09/09/2014 is only for those who had any LGV C1 to CE category on 10/09/2009

I agree with ROG, Sept 14 is the cut off for the "majority" of dirvers, those who passed prior to Sept 09.


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#20 29-06-12 23:00:00

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

My 5 years started this year and I have until 2017.  I have the paperwork, certificate and CPC card to prove it as well.

I passed my HGV Class 2 before christmas, and I done my initial DCPC in February I think.

If I only had until 2014, then that means that I would have had my licence for a few years now.  Then I would not be hitting the must have had your HGV licence for 2 years crap.  If an examiner passes you, and declares that your now safe to drive on your own, that should be enough.  Or at least give people a chance to prove themselves with a driving assessment.

I've been told by an adviser that I should think about becoming a Taxi driver,  As the start up costs are cheaper than being an indi ADI.  The franchise fee of £285 per week puts me of though.
A bad experience on a franchise is why I stopped being an ADI.  So not too keen on joining an other one.

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#21 30-06-12 09:11:06

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Gracie Jits wrote:

If I only had until 2014, then that means that I would have had my licence for a few years now.  Then I would not be hitting the must have had your HGV licence for 2 years crap.  If an examiner passes you, and declares that your now safe to drive on your own, that should be enough.  Or at least give people a chance to prove themselves with a driving assessment.

All with the pre 97 C1 LGV have until 09/09/2014 but if they go for LGV C now then that still remains the same expiry date because the inital LGV driver cpc is not required - this refers to commercial LGV and not private LGV driving

These days employers/agencies look at the actual pass date for the category in which they are considering employing you and want you to have HELD that category for 2 years etc

This would not occur if there were more LGV jobs than drivers - you would be working the day after the test!!


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#22 01-07-12 14:08:34

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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

We have had "agency" drivers in our place that have had less than 2 years driving, so maybe try some local Agencies?

AL


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#23 12-07-12 21:06:44

Gracie Jits
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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

EKAL wrote:

We have had "agency" drivers in our place that have had less than 2 years driving, so maybe try some local Agencies?

AL

All I ever get from agency's, is that our clients demand drivers with at least 2 years experience.  Or that the insurance company demands 2 years experience.

Do you know the names of those agency's AL?  I'll give them a phone if you do, maybe end up in your place if I am lucky.

If I can't get anything by mid August, then I will see about joining Eastwood/Mearns Taxi Co.

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#24 15-07-12 18:34:05

EKAL
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From: East Kilbride
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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Gracie Jits wrote:
EKAL wrote:

We have had "agency" drivers in our place that have had less than 2 years driving, so maybe try some local Agencies?

AL

All I ever get from agency's, is that our clients demand drivers with at least 2 years experience.  Or that the insurance company demands 2 years experience.

Do you know the names of those agency's AL?  I'll give them a phone if you do, maybe end up in your place if I am lucky.

If I can't get anything by mid August, then I will see about joining Eastwood/Mearns Taxi Co.

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#25 01-10-12 17:39:06

Tommy_morrison
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Registered: 01-10-12
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Re: CPC In The Greater Glasgow Area?

Yeah i passed my test in sept 2011 and was working for an agency in Glasgow "jark" and was working in shanks up in queenslie. 

and when i passed my test i was desperate for a chance to start, even driving bin lorries i don't care so long as i am using my licence. i drove the bin lorries up @   T in the park as they had the contract to clean the place after it had finished.

But after passing my initial cpc and speaking to the agency jark they said they needed 2 years experience in order to drive for them? all be cause of insurance reason and that what the employer wants?

HOW CAN YOU GET EXPERIENCE WHEN NO ONE WILL GIVE YOU THAT CHANCE. i cant afford to jump from agency to agency looking for full time work. An old boy in my work told me  one way is to try and get 7.5t work with agency and after a year of clean driving they'll usually give you the  class 2 work plus be over 25 y.o

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