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#1 23-11-11 08:45:29

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Coaching and WW3

Having tired of attempting to find definite answers on forums about coaching, I posed 2 quesitons on Facebook yesterday. After 78 replies, only 2 have come up with direct answers to one of the 2 quesitons.

You can follow the thread with mirth, curiosity or even the eternal hope that one might learn something new ( stranger things have happened ).

Here's the link...

http://www.facebook.com/groups/adisuppo … p_activity

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#2 23-11-11 09:07:37

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Re: Coaching and WW3

I think I might actually be close to getting an answer on Facebook ( talk about faith over adversity and all that ) but just out of interest, can someone please tell me what the principles of coaching are?

C&P form Facebook below...

On the contrary Colin - coaching has very clear principles - it's the definition of coaching that is fuzzy - even Hermes was stuck and unable to move on until a generic 'definition' was agreed on....but this was a hurdle I believe. The principles were never in question. I'm sure Ian Edwards will put me right but that's how I understand it.

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#3 23-11-11 13:10:33

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Re: Coaching and WW3

Here's the response. Nothing new but I don't agree with the 50/50 relationship.

The definition of coaching ( HERMES 2010 ) -
' Coaching is a learner-centred method that encourages body, mind and emotions to develop inner and outer awareness and responsibility with an equal relationship between the learner and coach '
...
The rationale of coaching is to develop the awareness and responsibility of the person being coached with emphasis on :

Self-awareness - moods/emotions
Awareness of inner and out factors, such as actions of others
A sense of responsibility and of consequences of behaviour and the confidence to act accordingly
Self-confidence and self-acceptance to prevent bravado, feelings of inadequacy leading to risky driving behaviour

THE PRICIPLES OF COACHING -
1/ the coaching relationship is an equal relationship:the trainer is no longer 'the expert' in the hierarchical sense.
2/ Coaching puts the learner in the active role
3/ Coaching encourages the learner to identify his/her goals and to meet these goals
4/ Coaching raises the awareness,responsibility and self-acceptance of the learner
5/ Coaching raises awareness not only through rational thought but also through the learners senses and emotions. Self awareness of the learners values, goals, motives and attitudes as well as his sensations and emotions,knowledge,skills and habits
6/ Coaching addresses the learners internal obstacles of change
7/ Coaching builds on the prior knowledge and experience of the learner
8/ The coach is convinced of his role and the benefits to change
9/ The coach communicates in an authentic, neutral and non-judgemental manner
10/ The basic skills a coach uses are effective and precise questioning, listening and reflecting back
11/ Coaching and instructing do not mix: if instruction cannot be avoided, alternate with coaching rather than mixing them
12/ Coaching shall be experienced by the coachee as much as possible as a voluntary process: the learner shall not be forced to participate in the coaching method
13/ Coaching is not just about asking questions: it is about using a method which is appropriate for the circumstances, ensuring that the learner is put in the active role wherever possible

These principles are interlinked

' With coaching and instructional using many of the same techniques this can lead to many instructors believing they already coach. Therefore the difference is one of focus' Edwards 2011

The fundamental aim of coaching is to increase a learners level of awareness and responsibility and the development of self-evaluation skills is a critical element of this process. It is about making the learner, as much as possible, their own teacher through development of their own self- evaluation skills. The learner must feel ownership of the ideas, concepts and learning outcome.


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#4 23-11-11 13:58:52

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Re: Coaching and WW3

Just had a go on the Facebook thread, now looking for my crash helmet.


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#5 23-11-11 14:01:42

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Re: Coaching and WW3

This was my response -

I view the development of our work has required a name to be used to describe the tools needed to achieve a different outcome. So I will try:- Teaching seems historically to be concerned with creating a driver who is as safe as possible at the point of where the instructor pupil relationship is severed (the test pass). - Where as coaching (a name) when used as prescribed, should offer the pupils a direction towards road safety post test, so training the new driver to be able to continue to learn post test through the self training associated with CCL (coaching) - IMHO


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#6 23-11-11 17:16:53

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Re: Coaching and WW3

Just had a go on the Facebook thread, now looking for my crash helmet.

I'm just going in now having been out all afternoon. please pray for me:)


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#7 23-11-11 17:31:50

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Re: Coaching and WW3

Just for those who cannot access FB, here's the original question I posed -

""Two questions for the driving instructor coaching experts…

As regards the Nature - Nurture debate, I'd be interested to know if the coaches feel they have come any closer towards a conclusion on this one!

And, which is more important - the principles of coaching or being able to teach people safe driving?


And this is my closing answer ( hope it's the last one, although it'll probably drag on a bit ).


Back to original question ( whether it's poor or not is a matter of opinion, but not to worry here ), I have satisfied myself that an answer of sorts has been given. In essence, if the instructor assumes that the 50/50 scenario is paramount and that it is, indeed, part of fulfilling the coaching process,( or principle ), then if a situation occurred where this was not possible, they would have to abandon coaching and choose another method ( or action ). If the coaching was adhered to, then I feel that the wrong action would have been taken, although the coaching ideal would have been followed. Personally, I do not believe in the 50/50 scenario ( principle ) so would not follow the coaching to the letter. When all said and done, I do feel that the principles of teaching would override those of coaching in my case but others, of course, may choose to accept that coaching rules and act accordingly. A matter of choice, but safety first with me.


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#8 23-11-11 21:33:52

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Re: Coaching and WW3

My apologies, it seems I miss read the question, and joined the trend of the thread, thus going off at a tangent. Please ignore my last post.


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