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#1 16-03-11 09:11:17

Gizmotime
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One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

I have edited a small part where my name and phone number was on it. :oops:

A BOLTON student has become one of the youngest advanced motorists in the country — just weeks after turning 17.

Matthew Baker, whose a sixth form student at Thornleigh Salesian College, only became 17 on September 20.

He was bitten by the driving bug early on and passed his theory test less than a month after legally being allowed to do so.

After passing his practical test on November 9, he immediately joined the Bolton group’s Skill for Life course and completed his IAM examination on January 30.

Matthew’s proud dad Geoff is himself an advanced motorist and recognised the risks associated with young drivers.

He said: “It was clearly pointed out to us that with Matthew's relative inexperience he may find the additional requirements very challenging. His observed sessions paid dividends - he not only had the experience of driving on all the different types of roads with very experienced observers, but he also had some very challenging weather conditions to cope with in the depths of Winter. In fact he was one of only two associates who turned up for training in the snow."

Matthew had to complete 10 observed sessions with an Observer and was found to be a very competent driver, demonstrating good early observations, planning and anticipation.

He said: "I really enjoyed the IAM Skill For Life Course. The observers were very helpful and friendly and gave me lots of tips on how to drive properly. It has given me a lot of confidence in driving on faster roads and in all weather conditions.”

Bolton group chairman Roy Sammons added: "Whilst it is very important to understand the limitations of the younger inexperienced driver, there are distinct advantages in starting young. Matthew had no bad habits to overcome, he was already very much in 'training mode' and therefore very receptive.

“It is vital to recognise that keen young drivers can improve their driving standards and reap the benefits for life.”

Bolton Advanced Motorists is a registered charity and run four courses per year to help motorists improve their driving skills.

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#2 16-03-11 10:04:17

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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Hi,

The more young people encouraged to do this the better - but what hope is there when many ADIs haven't done the advanced tests or encourage post test training.

My own son passed his L test 11 days after his 17th birthday (70 hours and 14 instructors later! his decisions) and a couple of weeks later asked me if he could do his advanced test - a few weeks later he passed his RoSPA test.

It does make a huge difference if they decide to do it themselves, albeit he did lose a little interest heading towards test as it wasn't coming soon enough for him.

He has now done 30,000 + miles since passing his test on 1st March last year with no accidents - touch wood not tempting fate.
(although there is a tracker in his car - through his choice too)

Brian

#3 16-03-11 12:52:19

Stephen7738
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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Gizmotime,
When did he pass his Advanced test you dont say or has he not done it yet.
Stephen

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#4 16-03-11 12:58:24

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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Gizmotime,
When did he pass his Advanced test you dont say or has he not done it yet.
Stephen

.........became 17 on September 20. ............. After passing his practical test on November 9, he immediately joined the Bolton group’s Skill for Life course and completed his IAM examination on January 30.


IAM Observer
Leicester group of advanced motorists
LGV instructor from 2005 to 2008

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#5 16-03-11 17:21:02

Stephen7738
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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Rog,
Are you suggesting that his examination in January was his test,as I take this to mean some sort of paper excercise.
Stephen 

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#6 16-03-11 17:49:39

Gizmotime
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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Rog,
Are you suggesting that his examination in January was his test,as I take this to mean some sort of paper excercise.
Stephen


Stephen, Matthew passed his practical L test on the 9th November 2010, joined our group's course in the November 2010, and passed his IAM test on the 30th January 2011.


Giz

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#7 16-03-11 20:27:41

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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Stephen7738 wrote:

Rog,
Are you suggesting that his examination in January was his test,as I take this to mean some sort of paper excercise.
Stephen

Stephen, Matthew passed his practical L test on the 9th November 2010, joined our group's course in the November 2010, and passed his IAM test on the 30th January 2011.
Giz

An excellent result.  The IAM used to require a three month period between passing the DSA test and taking the IAM one.  Has that requirement been withdrawn?

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#8 18-03-11 09:02:31

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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Well done to this lad. Good to hear.

A few years ago I was asked by a mother if I could examine her son for both the IAM and RoSPA on the afternoon of their 17th birthday following them hopefully passing their L test in the morning. This was not possible but he did take his RoSPA VERY soon after and passed with a Silver grade. (This was also the only RoSPA test I have ever conducted where the instructor sat in on the test.) I do not like the idea of, in my example, 'party tricks' so made no attempt to examine on the birthday as I do not believe that anyone with such limited experience can be an 'advanced driver'. I should point out that the son had been riding bikes on the road since 16, already help a PPL passed in America, and had been driving off-road so obviously had some mechanical and road knowledge. Obviously mum also had quite a lot of money as well. 

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#9 18-03-11 09:03:22

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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

The 3 month thing has now been withdrawn along with the points restriction.

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#10 18-03-11 15:10:24

Gizmotime
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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

The 3 month thing has now been withdrawn along with the points restriction.

It has, and the enrolment forms confirm this (for the groups that use them) as we do. smile

Giz

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#11 18-03-11 17:24:11

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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

ratty wrote:

The 3 month thing has now been withdrawn along with the points restriction.

It has, and the enrolment forms confirm this (for the groups that use them) as we do. smile

Giz

Oh - The SfL application form on the IAM website's still saying:
    Can anyone apply?
    Yes – as long as you’ve held
    a driving licence for at least
    three months.

I suppose they haven't caught up yet.

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#12 18-03-11 19:39:19

Gizmotime
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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Gizmotime wrote:
ratty wrote:

The 3 month thing has now been withdrawn along with the points restriction.

It has, and the enrolment forms confirm this (for the groups that use them) as we do. smile

Giz

Oh - The SfL application form on the IAM website's still saying:
    Can anyone apply?
    Yes – as long as you’ve held
    a driving licence for at least
    three months.

I suppose they haven't caught up yet.

Everything has changed, and the enrolment forms state that Applicants must  hold a valid and current FULL driving licence, before STARTING THE PROGRAMME, which allows the applicant to drive and/or ride in the UK and EU.
The little covers that SOME groups use do not state that, and will be amended.  roll

Giz

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#13 18-03-11 19:47:33

Gizmotime
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Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Download your own copy of the enrolment form here, to see I DO know what I'm talking about.

http://www.iam.org.uk/images/stories/do … itions.pdf

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#14 18-03-11 20:03:40

Driver99
Member
Registered: 21-01-11
Posts: 264

Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Download your own copy of the enrolment form here, to see I DO know what I'm talking about.

http://www.iam.org.uk/images/stories/do … itions.pdf

Can you please show me where I questioned your knowledge?
If you would care to look here:
IAM site
it clearly mentions the three month requirement.
This document is labelled ST/10 05/10 and was the SfL application form I saw at a recent event two weeks ago.

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#15 18-03-11 20:36:17

Gizmotime
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From: Bolton Lancashire
Registered: 05-04-04
Posts: 1,962

Re: One of the Youngest Advanced Driver.

Driver99, I have sent you a pm.

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