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#1 13-02-10 19:45:12

1stcastle
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PART 3 EXAMINERS. What are they up to?

Hello to other trainers out there. Just be reading a post regarding a student who past pst3 Phase 1- Turn in rd. In his comments he mentioned the examiner was putting in coasting and corner cut faults. Now we all know that the errors should be related to the subject matter. Cutting corners has nothing to do with it. Is there any trainer out there who can shed some light on this. Also, where would it be marked on the sheet. Oh! and the student has not got confused with phase2.

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13-02-10 19:45:12

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Re: PART 3 EXAMINERS. What are they up to?




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#2 13-02-10 20:28:26

Luchell
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Re: PART 3 EXAMINERS. What are they up to?

Might be a good idea to pop a link so we can read the details before commenting  smile

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#3 13-02-10 20:30:04

KevB
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Re: PART 3 EXAMINERS. What are they up to?

candidate has led the examiner down the path and the examiner has followed.

What's required for the pst subject?
Co ordination of controls,,,,,that includes clutch control.

what other control is relevent?  well that would be steering.

my opinion, clutch control and steering ability are both pst related.

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#4 13-02-10 21:01:43

colin166
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Re: PART 3 EXAMINERS. What are they up to?

I always thought that the examiner would after giving the word picture say something like "on the way to the site I would like you to correct any other driving faults that you see" which I would have thought would be related to clutch control and steering.

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#5 13-02-10 21:35:08

Luchell
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Re: PART 3 EXAMINERS. What are they up to?

I presume this is the thread the OP mentions

http://www.drivertrainingtoday.co.uk/fo … 183.0.html

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#6 14-02-10 11:18:12

adiwizard
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Re: PART 3 EXAMINERS. What are they up to?

On part 3 the examiner will expect you to see and correct anything else that is wrong, not just the PST. So on the way to the TITR site cutting a corner or coasting should have been picked up and dealt with just as you would with any pupil.

See it, say it, fix it.

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#7 14-02-10 12:30:50

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Re: PART 3 EXAMINERS. What are they up to?

This is all very confusing. I am not a part 3 trainer but when I did my part 3 on my first attempt I pulled the examiner over to correct his clearance to parked vehicles which he was uncomfortably close to. He played along but didn't seem too interested. In the debrief I asked was I correct to pull him on the clearance as there was no mention in his debrief. He could not even remember it and looked up his notes then said it was not related to the PST so was of no concern.

On my 2nd attempt I got pst3 and the faults on the way round to practice area where only pst related, shuffling steering, rough clutch, observation when moving away and so on.

#8 14-02-10 12:39:22

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Re: PART 3 EXAMINERS. What are they up to?

Part of the problem is that the perfect driver doesn't exist, so an examiner may get too close to a parked car unintentionally, even though it is not something the candidate is being assessed on (as opposed to deliberately driving too close to a parked car and simulating a clearance fault).

And of course as ADI Education pointed out, candidates for part 3 almost imagine errors.

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