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#1 30-10-09 18:02:23

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Passmasters in Administration

I have seen a few posts stating that Passmasters have gone into administration. Does anyone know if this is true?

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#2 02-11-09 09:28:12

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

Today I recieved an email from a woman who claims to be a Passmasters student and further claims she has just recieved a letter stating that Passmasters have gone into liquidation and she has lost £2,850. She states she had not past her part 1 test yet and had only recieved a few hours for Part 2. It looks like another instructor training company has bitten the dust with many people lossing their money. Not unlike Roadcraft UK and LetsDrive (although the latter went into Adminisation and was eventually rescued by LVG ltd i.e. Red driving school).

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#3 08-11-09 19:04:55

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

Just seen this post. It gives the email of the company that is supposed to be handling the liquidation/administation:

As a (now former) P.M. trainee, thankfully with the majority of hours under my belt, I, together with I gather from my trainer the bulk of others have heard nothing as yet from the administrators. Fromwhat he has told me they are not dealing with any potential claims by telephone (possibly some 800+ creditors!) and will only communicate via e-mail at Shabina.ali@aaranandpartners.com and there is a direct dial number for them 01244 405515.

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#4 10-11-09 17:37:53

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

Macca...Thank you for an informative post.

I note on the website, that they no longer call themselves Passmasters, rather Pass Drive.

Could be up and trading again sooner than we think. neutral


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#5 19-11-09 15:15:13

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

Passmasters Training Ltd officially went into Administration 23/10/09 (This is the company that were based at Whitworth Court, Manor Park, Runcorn), but were actually operated out of Rosyth, Fife. 

The Directors of the company were Chris Gilligan and Patrick Burke and the Manager in Scotland was David Watt.

A new company has been set up, actully on the same day that Passmasters went into Administration, probably reigistered in Manchester or Runcorn and actually run out of Kirkcaldy, Fife, by non other than....you guessed it David Watt and surprise surprise the Directors of Pass Drive are the Gilligans. 

If you go to www.passmasters.net the new company Pass Drive details and offers/prices etc are there and if you click on the link on the left hand side for driving instructors wanted there is an email for David.....

It stands to follow that the email for Chris and Sue Gilligan, the Directors would be in the same formatt as Davids wouldnt you think??????

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#6 19-11-09 21:54:26

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

Hopefully a warning NOT to train with a Limited Company.


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#7 25-11-09 19:26:57

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

Sorry Hector, but that's a cheap shot and should not have been said neutral. Every company, limited or not should be checked carefully by any potential punters.

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#8 26-11-09 11:43:07

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I have to say though that Hector does have a point, being a Limited Company means that the Directors are not directly responisible for payments if the company goes into receivership/administration, and it also means that it is legal for them to start a new company straight away, even if its with the same directors and office staff (which seems ridiculous to me)....

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#9 26-11-09 13:34:42

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Hi,

There are various reasons a business can go to Limited Co. status.

We have been trading since 2002 and initially it was a partnership, changed to sole trader in 2005 and at the moment we are in the process of changing to Limited Co.

The reason for the changes were mainly financial.

The important thing in relation to the ADI training that we do is, we don't take large lump sums up front and we train instructors with the intention of starting these instructors once qualified (or on a trainee badge if appropriate) although the instructor must show they have the right attitude and approach to their job and our business ethos.

Look at all areas of the business and chat to their instructors rather than focus on whether it is a Sole Trader, Partnership or Limited Co.

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#10 26-11-09 21:26:29

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

I most definitely do have a point!

As is the case with a certain company who took money from clients up front knowing they were about to go into VL.
Handing over large sums of cash to a limited company in this current financial climate could be very bad, as no limited company is immune from problems at the moment and the chances of getting it back are virtually non existent in theory.

This has happened many times with large well known ones.

I am a director of a limited company, dealing with other limited companies! A limited company can be 'checked' but this doesnt mean it isnt about to go bust (Or pretend to go bust)


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#11 12-01-10 09:06:33

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

I am an ex passmasters ordit trainer and here are two ways that I now know should be used to pay for any lump sum course.
1. Credit card then your money is still safe
2. Financial agreement through 3rd party like a finance company or bank as there is a clause that if the training company goes down the drain the finance company are under obligation to pay for the remainder of your training to be completed by another firm or trainer.

At this date all the clients from passmasters who paid through finance are still waiting for Barclays to sort out there remaining training.

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#12 12-01-10 09:20:11

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

As another ex passmasters trainer, with expereinece of third party finance companys they will have a long wait!

They didnt handle complaints re passmasters at all well and certainly wouldnt arrange for another company to take over training when receiving complaiants about passmasters hopeless service. Good luck to all concerned.!


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#13 12-01-10 09:31:55

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

Why would you pay £3000 up front for training?  Crazy, Pay as you go deffo the way to go.  Poor women though!


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#14 12-01-10 09:36:09

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Re: Passmasters in Administration

I guess people see more trust in a company rather than the guy around the corner.

Yet....If someone wanted to book training in your diary how much would you want up front? and how soon would you want it?

Good point made about payments. I just wonder how many are in a position to use their credit cards or take out finance.


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