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#1 01-11-09 21:31:46

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advanced drivers

This is a tragic irony,http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091101/tuk-man-dies-as-ambulance-on-999-call-hi-45dbed5.html


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#2 02-11-09 06:28:25

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Re: advanced drivers

I have activated the link for you.
Apart from the Ambulance driver, where does this involve advanced drivers?

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#3 02-11-09 08:42:09

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Re: advanced drivers

Like every driver that takes to the wheel we are all at risk. Training is designed to improve a driver performance by enhancing their awareness of those inherent risks; improving observation and decision making skills, car controls skills, widening and deepening knowledge, and ensuring a positive attitude to other road users at all times.
Response driving by the nature of the beast increases driving risk. From my experience with all the emergency services, all response drivers are trained  to a very high standard to do a very difficult job. Safety is always a main priority and it can be easy to point the finger of blame in the wrong direction before we are fully armed with all the facts.


I am a former Police Driving Instructor and Ex DSA ADI examiner. My qualifications include: BTEC Level 4 Police Driving Skills, BTEC Level 3 in Teaching Advanced driving, NVQ A1 Assessors awrard, DIAmond advanced test, RoSPA gold, Cardington A. I am a grade 6 DSA Instructor, fleet trained and a Class 1 Police Driver. www.janeclarkedrivinginstructortraining.co.uk

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#4 02-11-09 18:56:13

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sorry for any offence people,just lost it when I read about the police driver who killed the young girl while out joyriding,which was the term used in court.Again tarring with one brush is never a good idea.....they do an incredible job...
Mon


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#5 02-11-09 19:03:54

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Mon
Unfortunately it is always the minority that spoil it for the majority as in the case of that specific police officer you are referring to.


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#6 12-11-09 11:16:52

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What special training do the ambulance drivers have before going to the wheel?

I would say its a case of the chicken before the egg. What comes first?

ie....Your a nurse/doctor/first aider first then a driver second.

Most cases I see on the roads with ambulances the blue light driving is very poor, far too fast for the conditions. Reading maps, little or no local knowledge.


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#7 14-11-09 23:13:03

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Re: advanced drivers

What special training do the ambulance drivers have before going to the wheel?

I would say its a case of the chicken before the egg. What comes first?

ie....Your a nurse/doctor/first aider first then a driver second.

Most cases I see on the roads with ambulances the blue light driving is very poor, far too fast for the conditions. Reading maps, little or no local knowledge.

As far as i'm aware ambulance drivers have similar training to response police drivers, many ambulance drivers will take a standard driving course with a nearby police force.
I think it's an insult to hard working paramedics to say that for most their driving is poor. I'd say they drive incredibly well under immense pressure, especially considering they are driving what is a just a laden van.


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#8 15-11-09 21:37:46

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Re: advanced drivers

I think it's an insult to hard working paramedics to say that for most their driving is poor.

Whats poor is the standard of driving.

Yes, likely to be above your average driver on the road, but the standards are clearly not as high as they need to be in my opinion.

Clearly there are standards set but, the difference between a police driver and ambulance driver are clear to see when your on the road.


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#9 16-11-09 08:35:42

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Re: advanced drivers

Having looked at the report, I find that we can only assume that the ambulance driver was to blame. It dose not go into specifics and it could quite easily have been the car driver trying to dodge across traffic in front of the ambulance, it could have been the car overtaking.  How many times have I seen cars try and beet an emergency vehicle thruogh a gap, time and time again. It could have been........... come to think of  ot it, where is the car that was involved? There is wreakage on the road infront of the police car by the side of the ambulance, suggesting that the ambulance was indeed on the correct side of the road.

i think it is out of order to point the finger of blame at the ambulance driver without knowing the full facts.

Having said that, it is a sad time for the family of the person killed.

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