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#1 03-03-09 20:35:24

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Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Hi,

Firsty I am a PDI at the moment so nowhere near ready for a fleet course (Lets walk before I can run!!)

However I am planning to do my ROSPA advanced and while browing the site I noticed they offer a 5 day ROSPA diploma course (approved by DSA) for £130?????? http://www.rospa.com/drivertraining/cou … /index.htm

Am I reading this wrong as I thought the courses were more like £600 to £800 or am I just getting confused??

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#2 03-03-09 20:39:06

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

I suspect that is a certificated course that goes towards diploma qualification rather than the full diploma course.

Many diplomas these days can be attained via modules, these may qualify as a module.

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#3 03-03-09 20:42:05

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Ahh that would make sense.

Thanks for the reply.

BW

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#4 03-03-09 20:49:25

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Well im baffled, thats me out of business!

The syllabus lists a five day course. Im more inclined to think they have missed a 1 off at the start of the price, or presumably the £130 is just the level 3 betec.


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#5 03-03-09 21:04:07

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

The £130 is for the "Level 3 Certificate in Advanced Driving/Riding Instruction" for those who have taken or are taking the RoSPA Diploma Course.


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#6 04-03-09 05:24:39

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

No need to worry Hector, Tony is correct.

This is an 'add on' for those who wish to take the Diploma a stage further. The RoSPA course is an an excellent way to start off in the Fleet world and the BTEC certificate requires just a bit more work.

As you say jlo, the course is not really suitable to a newly qualified ADI but the RoSPA Advanced test is achievable by anyone with a bit of effort.

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#7 25-03-09 23:31:19

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

As above  -  it is the Btec based on the Diploma course that you have seen.

If you click the link you will see that you have to apply for the price of the Diploma course and it will be in the region of £500 - £700 I would suggest.

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#8 26-03-09 08:55:23

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

The full cost is in the region of £1200, but you will get a discount if you have a RoSPA Gold.

The cost is one of highest you will find to get yourself Fleet Registred but it's not just that. It really does raise your level awareness and will open your eyes in lots of ways. It will also enable you to become an Advanced Tutor with your local RoSPA group.

That's not say other courses are less worthy, they're not! It's just that I can speak about the Diploma course from experience.


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#9 26-03-09 23:14:00

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Many courses out there in the market place. So research is the answer, what do you want?

Make a list of what is important to you, eg.

The Badge,

The cost,

The training quality and depth,

The entry level,

Trainer to delegate ratio,

The length of course,

Accomodation or travel (if its away from home),

Can it be done as a modular course,

Is the course accredited,

Is it recognised as CPD,

What's in it for me,



Then the choice will be much easier.

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#10 27-03-09 06:29:06

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Also add in another question, how widely recognised is it?

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#11 29-07-09 15:50:23

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Hi folks,
I also have the BTEC - price is still the same as when I did mine.

My RoSPA Diploma course fee was £800. Plus you need to account for accommodation for THREE Nights (4 day course - turns into 5 if you need to get the driving up to scratch as a FIRST day). The length of the course may have changed by now (did my BTEC submission December 2005 - Awarded January 2006).

If you do not do the Business side it will give you level 3
If you do the Business element it will give you level 4.

You can take this qualification into Higher Education (HE) and the FIVE Elements of the BTEC give different Credit Levels for a Degree.

Unit                                                 Level     Credit Value

Advanced & Defensive Driver                  3               1.0
Driver Instruction & Training                   3               2.0
Driver Assessment                                3               2.0
Vehicle Instructor - Health & Safety        3               1.0   
Vehicle Instructor - Business Awareness   4               2.0

So for HE this will give you 60 Credits at Level 3 and 20 Credits at Level 4 (Business).

Because I had recently completed another course (have to be within past 5 years) - to brush up on the first - I was able to do a paper exercise plus a short paper to qualify for My BTEC.

I was also subsequently able to use this towards Credits for my Honours Degree.

This BTEC is accredited by the DSA
The Initial Course was an in depth course (previously attested to)
We had 6 on the course - Two Cars
I do not believe the DIPLOMA can be done by Modules now (you were able to do it when I did the first one in 2001) - but certainly if you just have to prove you have the two years business acumen - then yes.
It will certainly count towards CPD from my information - and looking at the content it will hit buttons both in prescriptive and elective.

I did all my educational qualifications because I wanted to - Very Important IMHO - improve depth of knowledge - someone can always show you better ways of doing things - personal satisfaction of being able to deliver the best quality information and training as is possible.

Thanks Iggy for the Prompts.

Regards,

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#12 29-07-09 21:40:09

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Hi Barry I thought the OP was looking into the diploma as a route to Fleet Badge 1st and personal accolade 2nd. So I was making reference to other providers and the research needed to aquire the right course for that individual, as opposed to the "B tech"

But VERY valuable info thanks.

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#13 30-07-09 07:27:32

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Morning Ian,

You may well be right - I got the impression that the price of the BTEC was being queried and IF that was all that was needed to go the 'Fleet route', hence the explanation of what was involved before the UPGRADING the Diploma to a BTEC.

I think many people may have read it in much the same way as we both have - but as you say the original questioner will have much to ponder.

Best Wishes,

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#14 30-07-09 17:17:37

jlo31
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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Thanks for all the posts. Very interesting reading.

I have to concentrate on getting my Green badge first but would like to do (at some point)  the RoSPA fleet diploma with a view of getting Fleet registered.

Cheers

Jlo31


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#15 30-07-09 18:13:18

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Hi jlo,

I am sure you are most welcome - and good luck with the Green Badge - keep at it.

Best Wishes,

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#16 26-02-10 17:50:15

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Just an update, I did proceed with the RoSPA diploma and it did cost a little more than £130, More like £925 plus vat but very much enjoyed the course.

Best wishes

Jlo31


RoSPA Diploma in Advanced Driving Instruction
IAM Motorcycle
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#17 26-02-10 22:13:20

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

I think it's a fantastic course.

Very well done!

Nigel


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#18 26-02-10 23:02:34

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Yes it was excellent. Learnt loads! Thanks Nigel. Glad you enjoyed it was well


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#19 26-02-10 23:15:19

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Ohh I posted on the other thread  big_smile

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#20 27-02-10 08:06:28

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Hi Jlo31,

It's gone up by around £125 from the time I did my first RoSPA course - (£800 + VAT + Accommodation for the week + travelling from the South = Loadsa Money) The update to BTEC was £170 - which effectively was a paper exercise.

Very well done on the achievement though - this is a tough profession and getting an "IN" is probably the most difficult unless you can gain work through one of the main leaders in the field.


Again, Well Done & Good Luck.

Regards,

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#21 01-03-10 18:57:35

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Thanks Barry,

Could I ask do I need to pay for the Btec upgrade? Is it worth doing this?

Many thanks

Jlo31


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IAM Motorcycle
DSA ADI (Car)
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#22 01-03-10 20:31:55

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

I think you will find it is £1100 but there are companies out there that can do the complete course for £395

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#23 01-03-10 22:34:19

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

I think you will find it is £1100 but there are companies out there that can do the complete course for £395

What?  The RoSPA Diploma for £395?  I'd be very surprised if this were true.

Nigel


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#24 02-03-10 11:23:19

barrykenward
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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

Me Too Nigel - the £170 was purely an administrative fee split between RoSPA and the issuing body - edexcel -

That said - I do not dispute companies will do cut price course - after all this is a cut throat industry - sadly - but if your qualifications are to mean anything do you want them from organisations who are recognised nationally as leaders in the field or someone one who is unknown - e.g. Mini or Mickey Mouse Enterprises UK Ltd.

As I have gone through my additional educational courses I have tried to do it with those who are tried and tested and have the credibility that goes with it.

To answer your question jlo31 - if you feel that RoSPA is not credible enough then update via edexcel , but RoSPA was the arranging organisation - they actually are working together in this field of education, as the course is recognised by edexcel - which in turn is recognised by just about every large industry body there is.

It is a matter of personal opinion for you to decide if you feel the outlay is worth the expense. You have five years to make up your mind - so no rush.

Take care.

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#25 02-03-10 13:27:38

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Re: Rospa Diploma only £130?????

thanks for the advice. I think for now I will put the money towards my fleet badge.


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