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#1 10-06-09 17:17:49

VandADI
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Plan for next check test...

I had an idea for a check test (when ever that may be) and wondered what you think.
It would be a coaching session primarily for a parent to gain confidence in taking out their offspring on private practice.
The plan I had in mind would be direct involvement with pupil/parent/coach - how would the SE react to this scenario in the car?
The first phase would be to give a mini-lesson, within the lesson so-to-speak, with proper re-cap, objectives set etc., then discussion in car with parent about how they feel it went and any concerns they may have etc., and the de-brief would be in the lines of creating a lesson plan for parent/pupil for their next private practice session with a follow up lesson with parent/student/coach to see how it went.
This would then give the parent confidence in going out with their child with full support from coach, and would also benefit the parent in re-educating them and setting realistic goals for their children rather than stating they passed their test in 10 hours xx years ago and expect their children to do the same.

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#2 15-06-09 22:57:13

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Re: Plan for next check test...

What you do Vanda is a specialised service and a deviation from the general format. I think what you are doing is fantastic but i doubt very much the DSA would accept it as check test subject. The part where you are training a learner would be ok but the DSA can't mark you on how you help mum or dad carry on your work privately.

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#3 16-06-09 07:21:08

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Re: Plan for next check test...

Hi Vanda,

In my opinion, the DSA (and their Examiners) are well behind the curve when you conduct a lesson that does not conform to their "failure-based" system. They simply do not understand the nuances of coaching as opposed to instruction and the GDE Matrix may as well be a town in Siberia. As an example - at a course I attended back in March, I met a well respected, experienced (ex) Grade 6 ADI of many years standing from the SW of England. On his most recent check test he had delivered a BTEC related module that specifically addressed life experience, attitudes and influences. At the debrief, the Examiner (ADI) informed him that he had not understood the purpose of the lesson, that the pupil had not once been pulled over to the side of the road to correct errors, that his relationship with the pupil was too friendly and that he did not believe that the pupil had learnt anything. He was awarded a Grade 3.

The last post by doc says it all. It matters not whether your lesson has realistic (and worthy) goals. If it deviates from the generally accepted format, or reaches hitherto unexplored areas of the examiner's psyche/mindset, you risk being marked down. Personally, I believe your idea is great and I would love to deliver such a session on my next check test (whenever that may be  big_smile).


Grade 6 ADI/Fleet Trainer, SAFED Registered Trainer, Qualified BTEC Assessor

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#4 16-06-09 07:56:42

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Re: Plan for next check test...

Don't know how friendly you are with your SEADI,  but if you get on why not ask him if what you are proposing would be OK?


A couple of years ago one of my colleagues did a checktest on skid control.   It was a theory lesson done on the laptop in the car.  The examiner was a bit surprised that there was no actual driving (apart from moving a short distance away from the TC, and then returning at the end)  but still gave the ADI a grade 5.    Perhaps the examiner actually benefitted too  tongue

I've seen the actual lesson and it's very good.  The ADI now uses it as part of Pass Plus.

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