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#1 09-04-09 11:01:40

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what is going on with the planet??

hey all,

just wanting some info on climate change ideas, so how long is petrol/diesel okay to last?? so i have seen the there are hybrid and electric cars being produced, but what affect is this going to have on this industry? i would have thought that we would need to get our behinds in to gear about trying to save the environment, as we are driving most of the time and using quite a lot of fuel.

I would like to opinion on what you think about hybrid/electric cars....

please feel free to contact me by pvt MSG

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Lee


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#2 09-04-09 14:51:27

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

Hi
IF I was interested in getting a newer car, I might be interested in a hybrid IF tyhey put a proper gearbox on it.

As it is, I will be retiring in the next few years and will be trading down to an older/classic car as a daily driver.

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#3 09-04-09 15:46:06

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

I think if you're serious about it, and fully signed up "Tree hugger" Hydrogen fuel cells are the only way to go. Hydrogen is a sustainable fuel source, ( most abundant element in the universe) hybrid diesel-electric vehicles are stop-gap technology. Plus they are ferociously expensive when compaired to simple high efficiency diesel, and are only marginally more economical.

Only problem is, fuel cell technology is still some years off for the massses. 


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#4 09-04-09 20:36:11

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

hydrogen-power isnt as eco friendly as you might think.

nearly all hydrogen gas in the usa is made from natural gas so you still get the same overall polution from that side of things (co2 emissions).. you can get hydrogen from other sources.... but the thing is they dont and it is expensive (or would be if they set up to do it.... and setting up to do it would cause still more co2 pollution).

hydrogen powered cars are also less efficient that electric ones.. I read somewhere that if you comapre the "power station to wheels" efficiency of hydrogen and electric cars.... hydrogen cars are about 25% efficient whilse an electric one is around 75% efficient.

on top of all that the hydrogen cell technology isnt efficient enough to mass market at the moment and as you say it is hugely expensive... and you cant get hydrogen from many places.

its also possible the emissions (water as steam) could act as a greenhouse gas if released in huge quantities.

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#5 14-04-09 19:23:37

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

There is plenty of oil left, double any estimates, as fuel usage is halving due to economicl cars, the oil left will last twice as long. Plus the difficult to get oil will become harvestable in the future.

And if the DSA stopped insisting on charging everywhere at breakneck speed, gulping up fuel to get to the next jam it would last even s o d d i n g  longer!


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#6 27-04-09 12:36:26

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

And if the DSA stopped insisting on charging everywhere at breakneck speed, gulping up fuel to get to the next jam it would last even s o d d i n g  longer!

Now Now, They hand the candidate a nice leaflet after they failed the test for not making progress, telling them how to be an ecosafe driver.


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#7 28-04-09 07:06:24

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

Couldn't agree more. Why promote ecosafe driving and mark down drivers for lack of progress?

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#8 28-04-09 08:50:53

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

lack of progress can lead to delaying following traffic.
slowed traffic fllows leads to queing
queing causes increase in fuel consumption and emissions.

Is lack of progress eco-friendly?

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#9 28-04-09 17:32:59

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

eco-friendly driving doesnt mean driving slowly any way.. never has and never will.

eco-friendly driving and safe driving are two separate things.. driving slowly is potentially dangerous as i think most people will realise.

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#10 28-04-09 19:36:28

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

I Seriously cannot understand why electric cars are not at a better standard than they are i am sure if companys invested in them  more then they could make them a viable alternative to petrol but i can see why they dont that would not help the big oil companies and there massive influence on the world i feel a conspiracy is happening.

#11 28-04-09 19:52:15

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Its not the cars adi3122, its the extension leads to run them they can't make them long enough big_smile


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#12 28-04-09 20:21:14

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

Its not the cars adi3122, its the extension leads to run them they can't make them long enough big_smile

ev, you're the gin again? tongue


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#13 28-04-09 20:31:17

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Hi Monika, no not tonight, glass of Chardonnay. Ev wink tongue


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#14 28-04-09 22:29:34

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Re: what is going on with the planet??

Hi Monika, no not tonight, glass of Chardonnay. Ev wink tongue

as long as it's only a glass  wink tongue


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