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#1 07-10-08 19:12:53

spyder_steve
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Safety - Emeregency Stop

A topic worth looking for Pupils and Instructors

Pupil 8 week Pregnant
Test is in the Horizon, I'd say approx 8-10 weeks away

Subject: Emergency Stop
"To be able to stop the car Safely and under complete control"

Question..
Is it "safe" for an Instructor to practice the Emergency stop with the pupil in this early condition ?

Considering the following:
It difficult to predict an Emergency, so the Earlier the better
It may be asked of in the "L" test, although some Examiners may not do it (Discression)
Risks would be bare minimum, Mother's protection would help protect the Unborn anyway
Practice would be better at a lower speed (Under 20mph) or even stationary (Dry Run)

If an emergency stop should be practiced would the Instructor be somewhat guilty if anything should happen to the unborn.

Any thoughts   :?


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#2 07-10-08 20:29:08

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Re: Safety - Emeregency Stop

Have a search on the forum steve, it's been discussed before.

Always practice it with mine.


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#3 07-10-08 21:37:54

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Re: Safety - Emeregency Stop

Ive had one pregnant pupil...shes just taken her test & passed first time, she didnt get an ES on test, but obviously we covered it and practised lots of times.
I was nervous about doing them, but at the end of the day  it had to be done.

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#4 07-10-08 22:02:36

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Re: Safety - Emeregency Stop

it could be part of the test ? so yes


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#5 08-10-08 13:34:21

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Re: Safety - Emeregency Stop

If pregnant pupil is sceptical about doing an emergency stop then they should not really be driving.
You have a 1 in 3 chance of getting E.stop on test, pregnant or not so yes it is deemed as safe.  If the pregnant pupil has any concerns about her condition then she should discuss this with her GP.

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#6 08-10-08 18:34:54

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Re: Safety - Emeregency Stop

Hi
a) The belt should be fitted properly, ie lap belt under the bump(or where the bump will be).
b) a driver is braced by their arms and legs against S/wheel and pedals, so is unlikely to be thrown violently forward in any E/S and particularly in a practice one.
c) A passenger is far more likely to be taken by surprise by an unexpected E/S and thus thrown forward into the belt.
So logically, if there is any significant danger, should any pregnant person even ride in a car?

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#7 09-10-08 04:40:46

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Re: Safety - Emeregency Stop

I think Vanda & Pegasus have really hit the nail on the head.  If a pregnant person has concerns about doing emergency stop then they shouldn't even get into a car as a driver or as a passenger - you just have no idea when an emergency stop may be required during  journey.  Whether one is done on test is entirely irrelevant.

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#8 09-10-08 06:32:27

tony adi
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Re: Safety - Emeregency Stop

If a pregnant person.....

That's taking pc to it's extreme
big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile


As my missus used to say "I'm pregnant, I'm not !!!!!!!! ill"

http://www.thinkbaby.co.uk/news/article/mps/uan/873


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#9 09-10-08 15:15:47

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Re: Safety - Emeregency Stop

hi
Interesting link tony.
Particularly the bit about the protection given by the amniotic fluid.

At a recent seminar with a paramedic's presentation, he was telling us that it is the second and third crashes that do the damage.
The 2nd crash is when your various external body parts crash into the belt/airbag/steering wheel/lower facia/pedals etc.
The 3rd crash is when your unprotected organs, Heart/Lungs crash into your ribs or you brain starts bouncing around in your skull.
He said they have often come across people with minor, or even no, visible injuries who have severe, even fatal, internal injuries. 

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