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#51 03-10-08 16:10:01

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Re: Trainee Licence

HI
Couple questions if anyone would kindly answer for me please:
1..What is the rule for driver removing seatbelt to do a manouvre which involves reversing?

2..If approaching a zebra crossing on 2 lane road, is it ok to overtake in right hand lane on zig zags?


Thanks in advance.
Sandra


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#52 03-10-08 16:21:38

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Re: Trainee Licence

HI
Couple questions if anyone would kindly answer for me please:
1..What is the rule for driver removing seatbelt to do a manouvre which involves reversing?

Regulations allow for certain circumstances where the driver (and if under instruction, the accompanying driver) to remove the seatbelt.

Any manoeuvre that includes reversing may be carried out with the seatbelt off. that means the whole manoevre and not just the revsing part.
e.g. the driver may remove the seatbelt prior to commencing the TITR and refit it once the manoeuvre is completed.

2..If approaching a zebra crossing on 2 lane road, is it ok to overtake in right hand lane on zig zags?

you may overtake any vehicle on the zizags  EXCEPT the lead vehicle if that vehicle is slowing for or giving way to pedestrians on or near the crossing.

you may PASS (not overtake) the lead vehicle at a crossing  WITH CAUTION and due care if that vehicle is stopped at a crossing if they are in queuing traffic  and they have only stopped because their exit is not clear for them to proceed.

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#53 03-10-08 23:24:20

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Re: Trainee Licence

Regulations allow for certain circumstances where the driver (and if under instruction, the accompanying driver) to remove the seatbelt.


Which regulations allow for accompanying driver to remove seatbelt?


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#54 04-10-08 06:25:15

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Exemptions from seat belt wearing

The legislation provides for a number of specific exemptions from the seat belt wearing requirements on medical and other grounds. Please consult your doctor if you think you should not wear a seat belt on medical grounds.

As for the others these include:-

"(b) the driver of or a passenger in a motor vehicle constructed or adapted for carrying goods, while on a journey which does not exceed 50 metres and which is undertaken for the purpose of delivering or collecting any thing;
(c) a person driving a vehicle while performing a manoeuvre which includes reversing;
(d) a qualified driver (within the meaning given by regulation 9 of the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1987) who is supervising the holder of a provisional licence (within the meaning of Part III of the Act) while that holder is performing a manoeuvre which includes reversing;
(e) a person by whom, as provided in the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1987, a test of competence to drive is being conducted and his wearing a seat belt would endanger himself or any other person;
(f) a person driving or riding in a vehicle while it is being used for fire brigade or police purposes or for carrying a person in lawful custody (a person who is being so carried being included in this exemption);
(g) the driver of—
(i) a licensed taxi while it is being used for seeking hire, or answering a call for hire, or carrying a passenger for hire, or
(ii) a private hire vehicle while it is being used to carry a passenger for hire;
(h) a person riding in a vehicle, being used under a trade licence, for the purpose of investigating or remedying a mechanical fault in the vehicle;
(j) a disabled person who is wearing a disabled person's belt; or
(k) a person riding in a vehicle while it is taking part in a procession organised by or on behalf


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#55 04-10-08 07:45:13

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Re: Trainee Licence

Thanks Nigel smile

The actual legislation is The Motor Vehicles (Wearing of Seat Belts) Regulations 1993

An SI that directly relates to it can be read at:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1993/Uksi_19930176_en_2.htm

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#56 04-10-08 14:00:05

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Re: Trainee Licence

Hey your getting good at giving more comprehensive answers hector, much more useful to all those that don't know these things wink


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#57 04-10-08 15:16:10

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Re: Trainee Licence

big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile


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#58 08-10-08 15:24:12

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Re: Trainee Licence

Hi all :x  sad  :cry: :cry: :cry: :x :? :? :cry: :oops:


WELL ITS ALL OVER!  TODAY I FAILED MY FINAL ATTEMPT  :cry:  My brain and mouth just do not seem to do as they should on test and its the same every time. I got pst 8 and phase 2 was FLH.  Got 3-3

Basically phase 1 was not too bad, I did find and correct many faults but it could have and should have been better. FLH meet. clearance and anticipation. He was shaving cars ....and I let him do it for far too long. I was not analysing enough with core comps. Can not think of anymore yet as bit down at moment.

I have spent thousands of pounds and have had lots of training but in the end it was ME who wasn't good enough.
A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HAVE HELPED ME WITH ADVICE ETC Maybe it was not meant to be yikes


BIG THANK YOU TO HECTOR ESPECIALLY.

Maybe when I feel bit better, I will do more write up. For now its back to drawing board to think what I am going to do with my future.


Sandra     x :cry:


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#59 09-10-08 13:34:57

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Hi Sandra

Hard Luck, can understand how you have felt, up for my
third time soon.
Can I ask whether you stayed with the same trainer
throughout your attemps?


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#60 10-10-08 05:33:07

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Re: Trainee Licence

Hi scannermanh

Have pm you.

Sandra


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#61 10-10-08 05:34:27

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Re: Trainee Licence

HI all

Now its all sunk in I am gutted.

HOW CAN ANYONE FAIL 6 TIMES? :oops:


sandra x


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#62 10-10-08 07:21:36

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Awwww Sandra so sorry...after all uve been thru.  neutral

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#63 10-10-08 11:13:19

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Chin up Sandra

Explore other avenues for now, and dont give up!  smile


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#64 28-10-08 16:52:44

JonnyG
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From: Belfast
Registered: 13-01-05
Posts: 742
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Re: Trainee Licence

Aw sandra, Ive only just discovered your posts.

Im so so sorry for your further frustration in delayed success.

I know how supportive you were for me in the past and just wanted to encourage you to keep at it.

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#65 03-01-09 18:57:48

stsmith2212
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From: BIRMINGHAM
Registered: 14-08-05
Posts: 83

Re: Trainee Licence

Hi all

Not been on here for a while, so thought I would share my feelings now nearly 3 months have passed since doomsday neutral
Well, I still have my full time job, just about by the way things have been, so thats good.
A few days after my last fail I had a good hard think about my future. I did think about going thru it all again (my 2 years is up march 09) but I seriously do not think I could put myself thru all the  stress,tears and BIG expense anymore. I have now got my weekends back and I must admit that I have not missed teaching pupils one little bit. Surely that must tell me something smile When I first got my trainee lic I loved every minute of it, but because of all the humiliation of failing and having no time for my family, I slowly started to not enjoy it so much and did not want to go out to teach sometimes, which is not a good sign.

So, maybe the job i thought was for me, actually wasn't. It is great to see all the success stories on here tho.

All the best to you new ADI instructors for 2009 and everybody else.
sandra xxx  big_smile


Part 3...April 10th.... 2-2      Delayed success
Part 3...June 22nd......4-3     Delayed success
Part 3...Nov 09th ... 3-3        Delayed success

If at first you don't succeed, try and try again!

2nd time around...

Part 1... Passed March 07   1st time
Part 2....Failed March 07
Part 2....Passed May 07
Part 3....Failed Jan 18th 08
Part 3....Failed March 08
Part 3....I think its all over.... IT IS NOW!  Failed oct 08

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