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#1 05-03-08 18:09:44

Karenadi
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Possible career paths

If you were considering expanding your options and opening up a career path, what course of action would you take first?  The choices as I see it are:

Complete DipDi (Then continue with Degree)

Do City and Guilds adult teaching cert

Train for ORDIT register

Take varying driving tests: ie ROSPA, IAM, Cardington

Train for Fleet Register

OR any other valid idea's!

(Airmiles need not reply - thankyou.  I am already aware of your opinion on the ORDIT register and women in general)






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#2 05-03-08 18:42:47

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Re: Possible career paths

If you want the pay rise (not immediately, but the potential is there if you are determined enough) - go fleet.

If you want to enjoy something - who am I to decide for you!

I always suggest thinking about where you want to be in 5 years then work backwards.

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#3 05-03-08 19:07:51

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Re: Possible career paths

You need to do the degree last as points make prizes!

Example dip di = 50 points so you still need another 310.

Your well timed for the Dip di if you start now, you need to get put in for the modules asap though.


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#4 05-03-08 19:35:53

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Re: Possible career paths

You need to do the degree last as points make prizes!

Example dip di = 50 points so you still need another 310.

Your well timed for the Dip di if you start now, you need to get put in for the modules asap though.

What other subjects did you cover to make up the points for the degree? 


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#5 05-03-08 19:49:09

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Re: Possible career paths

Hi smdtr

The 7302/3 scores well. Cert ed very well.

but still leaves well short.

Others that score include Diamond examiners course, Rospa gold, Cardington, ordit reg etc but these score lowly at about 5 points each. Any relevant courses will help particulary recognised academic such as City and Guilds

The others need to be made up from completing research projects either single/double/triple gaining 20 40 or 60 points. Normally 20 points per semester, an average degree taking 3-4 years or so after gaining initial points. 4  8 or 12 thousand word projects

Hope this helps. 

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#6 05-03-08 20:40:55

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Re: Possible career paths

Im running some courses later in the year regarding cpd and obtaining degree etc if anyones interested.

Hey: this wasn't an advertising thread for Excelsior Training! lol lol


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#7 05-03-08 20:41:19

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Re: Possible career paths

Perhaps you could look into teaching people with disabilitys or learning difficulties.

Just another suggestion.

Alot of my decisions are driven by income, so I want something thats going to benefit me long term, at the same time I do not want to be studying for the next 5 years, to acheive one small goal.

Ive got so many ideas spinning around in my head it drives me nuts sometimes. Think I need to take some business time off soon. wink


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#8 05-03-08 20:47:35

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Re: Possible career paths

How many points for the 7302/3?

I already have an HNC in Automotive Management which contributes.  Dip DI would be good to do as would the teaching cert.

How would I put it all together?  Where do I start?  Do most Universities offer this degree or is it specific to Middlesex?

Cheers

Scott

Perhaps you could look into teaching people with disabilitys or learning difficulties.

I've recently added automatic and it's certainly a challenge, teaching a girl with Dyspraxia at the moment.
I really would like to do more of this kind of work.


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#9 05-03-08 21:14:03

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Re: Possible career paths

Perhaps you could look into teaching people with disabilitys or learning difficulties.

Sadly, this is one line I don't want to take: having a disabled daughter, and having all the work involved in that for years makes me want to steer clear when I'm not at home.  Not saying it's not rewarding or necessary: but it's not for me.

I want to steer clear of learners and have more variety.  Quite fancy fleet, speed awareness and driver improvement stuff.  Maybe just have a couple of learners to tick over - but to be honest I've had my fill of them lately.

My aim in 5 years: to be rich and do nothing for it.  Youngest son is in his second year of Business Management degree, and is keen to try and find a business opening for himself: he has done a couple of quite large projects in respect of driving schools and got top marks for them.  I wonder what reality might bring.  His reckoning at the moment is to compete with BP himself - it's just a case of finding the right business plan - he reckons. :evil:


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#10 05-03-08 21:29:30

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Re: Possible career paths

Im running some courses later in the year regarding cpd and obtaining degree etc if anyones interested.

Did I mention anything about charging! I wont bother now



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#11 05-03-08 21:34:13

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Re: Possible career paths

I want to steer clear of learners and have more variety.  Quite fancy fleet, speed awareness and driver improvement stuff.  Maybe just have a couple of learners to tick over - but to be honest I've had my fill of them lately.

My thoughts also.....Thankfully my business standing is better now than it was when I started, like any business it takes alot of investment and some time before you see a real profit.

Fast ending my 5th year and listening to another instructor recently they, after 6 years have had enough.

Im looking for variety. Also a better income. Thats not going to come with learners.

Got some nice pupils thou. Most of mine are older, so between stuff we usually have a good chin wage, they are pritty good on the whole. Only a couple of troubled ones, then he surprised me last night and said before you ask ill pay you for the cancellation its not fair.  roll Must be an :angel:


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#12 05-03-08 21:38:25

Karenadi
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Re: Possible career paths

Im running some courses later in the year regarding cpd and obtaining degree etc if anyones interested.

Did I mention anything about charging! I wont bother now

yikes

Was only joking with you.


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#13 05-03-08 21:59:56

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Re: Possible career paths

Its no good apologising im leaving the forum youve upset me


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#14 05-03-08 22:01:20

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Re: Possible career paths

Its no good apologising im leaving the forum youve upset me

Please don't leave. Do you want some toys to throw?  Will that help?


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#15 06-03-08 07:01:57

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Re: Possible career paths

If you want the pay rise (not immediately, but the potential is there if you are determined enough) - go fleet.....

Fleet can pay well, provided you can get out there and generate the work yourself (something I have trouble with).  It doesn't pay well if you go through one of the established companies like IAM, RoSPA, Drive & Survive, Drivetech etc.  Speed Awareness & Driver Improvement can be good introductions to what some fleet work can be like, again it doesn't pay well and tends to be in half-day chunks which can screw up the diary unless you are local to the work.

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#16 06-03-08 07:47:03

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Re: Possible career paths

Ouch - you're right Nigel - if you have to work through the big guys they will give you the crappiest jobs until you've proven yourself apparently.

And yes - £100-£150 is about the norm for fleet from the big boys, though the ADI fed are promising a lot more than that with their co-operative - can't vouch for it yet as it isn't fully running and I've not had work from it, but....

Half days are not worth the aggro, thats' really bad.

Yep, it does screw up the diary. Being the only auto instructor in the area apparently means that customers stick with me when I take 3 weeks off to do fleet work, but realistically you can't run both alongside each other indefinitely.

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