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#1 07-02-08 21:23:06

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Mirrors

with the introduction of the "new" mirror law(last year) and the fact that there now has to be a "blindspot" wide angle mirror on either side of the vehicle.

Q - does an LGV driver on test or otherwise have to carry out a right shoulder check(blindspot) prior to moving off?


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#2 08-02-08 00:17:31

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Re: Mirrors

I know you want the official answer, but my personal answer would be yes... we are always teaching people not to rely on the mirrors as the sole method of observation, so a right blind spot check should still be applied.

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#3 08-02-08 01:04:51

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Re: Mirrors

yes, we still teach Left mirror, Front Obs (including centre mirror where fitted), Right mirror, Right blind spot, move off if safe & check left mirror - that's EVERY time they move off from stationary (roundabouts, traffic lights etc...) not just when moving away from side of road like car L test.


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#4 10-02-08 19:52:23

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Re: Mirrors

yes, we still teach Left mirror, Front Obs (including centre mirror where fitted), Right mirror, Right blind spot, move off if safe & check left mirror - that's EVERY time they move off from stationary (roundabouts, traffic lights etc...) not just when moving away from side of road like car L test.

Questions?

1 - if you only teach left mirror, why do you teach right mirror & right blindspot, why don't you teach left blindspot as well?

2 - after move off you have "check left mirror, why do you have to check left again and why not left and blindspot?

Another queeeeeeery :evil:
the vehicles we have now actually have 6 mirrors, 3 on near side, 1 on windscreen looking to bumper and 2 on off side, anyone think we should be teaching drivers to check ALL mirrors available before moving off & a right shoulder blinspot?


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#5 14-02-08 21:19:41

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Re: Mirrors

Our examiners seem to be quite hot on blind spot checks.  I teach to do them any time they move off from stationary.

I would agree with check left mirror after move off, again I teach it that way. 


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#6 15-02-08 05:36:14

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Re: Mirrors

bandb666 wrote:

yes, we still teach Left mirror, Front Obs (including centre mirror where fitted), Right mirror, Right blind spot, move off if safe & check left mirror - that's EVERY time they move off from stationary (roundabouts, traffic lights etc...) not just when moving away from side of road like car L test.

Questions?

1 - if you only teach left mirror, why do you teach right mirror & right blindspot, why don't you teach left blindspot as well?

2 - after move off you have "check left mirror, why do you have to check left again and why not left and blindspot?

Another queeeeeeery :evil:
the vehicles we have now actually have 6 mirrors, 3 on near side, 1 on windscreen looking to bumper and 2 on off side, anyone think we should be teaching drivers to check ALL mirrors available before moving off & a right shoulder blinspot?

Ok, missed the S's off - that should have read "yes, we still teach Left mirrors, Front Obs (including centre mirror where fitted), Right mirrors, Right blind spot, move off if safe & check left mirror "  due to width, design & the fact there is no windows in the rear off the cab you would be unable to check Left blind spot without undoing seat belt, climbing across the centre console & sitting on passengers Lap to look around door pillar (examiners arent too keen on this) & by the time you've climbed back & belted up the siuation could have changed anyway.
Final left mirror check to check for position of rear of vehicle as it's moving off - overhang on pavement, cycles filtering down left side etc...


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#7 15-02-08 17:50:13

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Re: Mirrors

due to width, design & the fact there is no windows in the rear off the cab you would be unable to check Left blind spot without undoing seat belt,

tongue tongue
I was referring to left blindspot "mirror" :evil:


we now have 6 mirrors on our vehicles, its a lot of checking prior to moving, BUT I suppose with the absence of a centre rear view mirror, you cant have enough obs before moving a 21 tonne truck


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