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#1 24-09-07 19:47:39

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DIA Diploma

HI all
thinking of doing the dia diploma next year and was wondering what the pass mark is for each of the 5 modules. I know each module is scored out of 100 but can't find the pass mark.

Thanks for any help

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#2 24-09-07 21:13:08

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There isn't a pass mark.  They mark all the papers: see how everybody has done, then work out a pass mark.

Therefore, if the highest marks achieved was 40%, then they may make the pass mark 25% meaning everyone getting that or over passes.  If the highest mark is 75% then the pass mark could well be 50%.


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#3 25-09-07 07:29:37

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That seems ridiculous! In other words you may not be very good but pass one year, or be better the following year but fail! How fair is that?

Its like 6 learners going out on test and comparing how good they are all are when they get back then deciding who should pass and who shouldn't depending on who else took the test at the time!

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#4 26-09-07 08:43:36

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There isn't a pass mark.  They mark all the papers: see how everybody has done, then work out a pass mark.

Therefore, if the highest marks achieved was 40%, then they may make the pass mark 25% meaning everyone getting that or over passes.  If the highest mark is 75% then the pass mark could well be 50%.

Please tell me you are joking.

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#5 26-09-07 19:55:31

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That does not seem a very fair way of marking any exam or test

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#6 27-09-07 07:13:38

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That is a good reason to take the ROSPA Diploma. There standards are high. If this is the way the DIA work, you will get shoddy trainers. No good in this world. Yes I know ROSPA is expensive but in my opinion well worth it.


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#7 28-09-07 19:14:46

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Not joking - it's a fact.  That's how the pass/fails are decided.  So if everybody decided to not bother to prepare for the exam, and the highest mark achieved was for example 20% everyone achieving more than 10% would probably pass.  However, I believe the year I did it, the pass mark must of been about 95%, hence the reason I only managed to pass two modules. :evil: :evil:

I believe that the old A level system was marked in a similar manner also - but at least that's been changed now.


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#8 24-12-07 22:38:33

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So the same way the 11 plus exam is marked.  The top 100 scores is a pass.


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#9 24-12-07 22:50:29

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just shows what a part time squad the DIA are if thats the scoring method they use........... which I cant believe to be true................................. surely?


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#10 06-02-08 16:12:21

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Why is it a problem for people to understand.

The Diploma has alot of written elements and like anything in driving there are different ways of doing something.

Certain elements come with more points and as I understand this is noted on the papers to give candiadates an idea of the amount of input needed to score higher.

Surely the pass mark is to go along and do your damm hardest and study hard. Those doing well will pass.

Blimey!....Sounds just like the driving test. wink


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#11 06-02-08 20:53:59

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The dia diploma is a very good exam. Its very easy for someone who hasnt done it to critise it, so anyone who hasnt dont! Some very strange comments from people who havnt done it-Shoddy trainers? It is still the toughest to do other than a degree. It shows actual knowledge, not a guess from a list.

It is very difficult to have a pass mark for an exam where the answers are written. Not a stupid multiple choice exam a proper written exam with realistic subjects requiring a broad knowledge. There are no right or wrong answers, just answers that are more thorough, this has to be determined by the national standard to determine the most knowledgeable candidates.

Perhaps if learners actually had to study they might have some knowlege to take out on the roads.

The fact I passed the vehicle section having only completed half of it shows my outstanding mechanical Knowledge, and a certain London Lady instructors lack of mechanical knowledge who scraped it having completed it all :evil:


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#12 06-02-08 21:53:46

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How do you know what mark you got?  I never found out mine.


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#13 06-02-08 22:47:13

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Karen they told me you scored zero big_smile big_smile big_smile

Seriously You dont find out the mark, just pass or fail.

Remember the examiners who mark are extremely well qualified to do so, im pretty sure the same persons who mark the degree.


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#14 07-02-08 10:26:09

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The fact I passed the vehicle section having only completed half of it shows my outstanding mechanical Knowledge, and a certain London Lady instructors lack of mechanical knowledge who scraped it having completed it all :evil:

oih I didn't just scape through you cheeky git, if anything was proved during that exam is that women can read the phrase "please turn over" at the bottom of the page and men can't. big_smile 


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#15 07-02-08 11:50:58

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LOL: I see where my confusion was now. lol  I didn't scrape through either: reckon it was Hector that scraped through for taking his time and not finishing the paper. :evil:

Our knowledge was so superior, we didn't need to dawdle our way through it. :angel:


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#16 07-02-08 18:23:08

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Re: DIA Diploma

The reason why I gave the term of 'Shoddy Trainers' was due to the fact that one instructor highlighted the pass mark rate could be low. I wish the Fleet course I attended was marked as low as the one you had taken, fortunately it wasn't and the standards are still very high, which means you have got to have the knowledge of realistic subjects. Only commenting on what other instructors have written about the DIA diploma course.


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#17 07-02-08 18:31:13

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Pass marks for most exams are decided on a "norm scale".

That means that GCSEs and A-levels are still marked on the principle that some will get A's, more will get B's, and on down the line.

This is, has and probably will always be the case and is no cause for concern - with a large block of candidates each year we can anticipate that their average scores will be similar.

It does cause concern when you listen to politicians who say - the number passing rose by .5% again this year - yep, because you decided they would!!!

The only problem can occur with small candidate numbers - with any group of 200,000 candidates you can expect one year to be similar to the next, but with only 20 it may differ slightly.

However as the guys who have done the diploma have stated - they people who mark these things are not monkeys - they can tell if you know what you are on about.

I'll trust it til they fail me!

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#18 07-02-08 20:42:33

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Pj sat behind me and simply copied my quality drawings and explanations of various vehicle components. Thats the only reason she passed.

Girls and mechanicals just do not mix.


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#19 07-02-08 21:13:51

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Boys and their toys.  roll

Remember when you were little and wanted to play Barbie but weren't allowed?  Well we were already playing with cars! lol


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#20 07-02-08 21:40:58

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I was trying to find Barbies Min ge


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#21 07-02-08 22:06:49

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yikes yikes

I bet you were one of those that kept taking her clothes off after your sister had dressed her. lol


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#22 07-02-08 23:12:48

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Re: DIA Diploma

Pj sat behind me and simply copied my quality drawings and explanations of various vehicle components. Thats the only reason she passed.

Girls and mechanicals just do not mix.

hmm hector, when i was 13 i could take a carburetor apart clean it and put it back together. Plus all girls have 6th sense man  have not  tongue


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#23 08-02-08 13:21:31

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Yes: La Monikita: it's called COMMON sense lol lol lol lol lol


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#24 08-02-08 17:01:23

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Re: DIA Diploma

Pj sat behind me and simply copied my quality drawings and explanations of various vehicle components. Thats the only reason she passed.

Girls and mechanicals just do not mix.


Shame you weren't sitting behind me, then you might not of missed the questions on the back page tongue tongue to be fair Nigel wasn't the only one to miss the bit " please turn over"  then again it was all the other men that missed it tongue tongue Think I was the only woman there and low & behold I finished all the questions well within the allotted time.


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#25 08-02-08 17:52:49

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Re: DIA Diploma

. Plus all girls have 6th sense man  have not  tongue

Isn't that the film with Bruce Willis in it?  tongue

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