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#1 22-12-07 14:47:49

Bwian
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A55 expressway in North wales

I have just returned from visiting family in North wales where I was asked a question about a length of duel carriageway.
The A55 runs the full length of north wales and is mainly has the national speed limit. But there is a length starting around Llanddulas that starts with a sign telling all learners (except HGV) and mopeds under 50cc to leave at the next exit. As you would see if the carragway turned into a motorway, but it doesn't, it is still the A55, nothing changes. Except the national speed limit signs are replaced with 70 signs (white circle red border), but it was 70 anyway.

I couldn't explain why this is, can anyone shed any light on it for me please?

thanks in advance
Tony.


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#2 22-12-07 19:44:58

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Re: A55 expressway in North wales

A55 is also E22, iaw Trans European Network, Holyhead to Moscow and beyond.
Classed as 'Special Road' iaw Act of Parliament and thus restrictions apply to certain drivers/vehicles, hence motorway type regs..
EU 'wrong side of the road drivers' don't understand our NSL sign so 70 in red circle must be displayed.

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#3 30-12-07 17:17:59

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Re: A55 expressway in North wales

Hi
I can't understand why they don't just reclassify those restricted stretches as the A55(M), it would then be clarified better for strangers.

Another Q I have tried to get answered is why the original Severn Bridge, now on the M48 hasn't been reclassified as a normal road, it has a junction at each end (Jct 1 and Jct 2) so this could be done quite easily, and it would bring it in line with all the other Toll Bridge River crossings except the 2nd Severn Bridge (Which could not be done as easily because of the limited access Jct 23)

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#4 30-12-07 17:22:38

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Re: A55 expressway in North wales

EU 'wrong side of the road drivers' don't understand our NSL sign so 70 in red circle must be displayed.

That's nonsense. 
Firstly, being ignorant of the road signs is no defence in law, no matter where you originate from.
Secondly,  if that was the case, why are there national speed limit signs on other sections of the same road,  i.e.   Just a few miles before, and after the 70 signs.

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#5 30-12-07 18:35:45

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Re: A55 expressway in North wales

Found this on t'internet:

Part of the route (Junction 23) Llanddulas to (Junction 17) Conwy is signed as a 70 mph (110 km/h) speed limit (as opposed to most of the other sections of the A55, which are the National Speed Limit) and is a non-motorway special road, which has restrictions on access by pedestrian and other traffic, similar to the restrictions applied to a motorway. There is also a stretch passing through Colwyn Bay (Old Colwyn to Mochdre) signed as a 50 mph (80 km/h) limit. These restrictions are imposed as added safety precautions because the slip-roads in this stretch are unusually short because of the difficulty of fitting the road into a very narrow area of land, and, due to the road underpassing much of the town, to reduce road surface noise levels.

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#6 30-12-07 19:31:04

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Re: A55 expressway in North wales

This explains it more clearly:

The Colwyn Bay section is particularly interesting because it is a very rare "secret motorway". It was built using special road powers, the same legal orders used to create a motorway, but was never declared as one. This creates the unusual situation where it is not a public right of way and not a motorway, and therefore the National Speed Limit does not apply to it. Motorists driving through from the NSL sections on either side will see a 70mph sign, and at the end, another NSL sign - yet the speeds permitted are no different along the entire stretch. It's made even more strange by the fact that it was built in two sections, and the point where one ends and the next begins is marked with another 70mph sign, ending the previous limit and starting a new, identical one.

Taken from here:  http://www.cbrd.co.uk/motorway/a55/

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