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#1 20-11-07 19:12:52

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Do lower speed limits result in lower speeds?

Do lower speed limits result in lower speeds?

Read the last paragraph of this linked page on the Leics. County councils' website.

http://www.leics.gov.uk/index/highways/ … limits.htm

Similar effect has occured since my own council dropped a speed limit from 30 to 20mph.

I was rarely overtaken when the road was a 30 limit,  now I am DANGEROUSLY overtaken by cars going in excess of 40mph and sometimes as high as 50mph.

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#2 21-11-07 22:34:52

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Re: Do lower speed limits result in lower speeds?

I would tend to agree and have foundd much the same.  There is a local road which has been reduced from 30 to 20mph and has the small speed humps (the ones you can straddle) along it.  I find that I am now often overtaken on it and many of then are the local residents doing it.  When it was 30 very few people would overtake.  It seems ironic that the limit has been lowered for the safety of the local residents, yet they often seem to be the culprits.


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#3 22-11-07 00:01:18

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Re: Do lower speed limits result in lower speeds?

we have loads of 20mph zones - usually by schools, unfortunately none by my kids schools sad . but people dont decelarate but straddle the bumps and overtake in the most in-opertune moments. so guess its a national phenomenom not local. but yes most local residents are the biggest culprits. after all they know whats round the corner - dont they?  :evil:  roll


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#4 22-11-07 06:36:07

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Re: Do lower speed limits result in lower speeds?

....but people dont decelarate but straddle the bumps....

Letting the thread deviate slightly, many councils don't think through the sizing of the speed cusions/bumps enough.  I see many that you can't go over any faster than 20mph........in a 30 mph zone!  Why?  If they deem 30 to be a suitable speed for the area, then utilise bumps that allow 30, if they think 20 is a more appropriate speed, then change the speed limit to 20 along with a '20mph' speed bump!

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#5 29-11-07 13:41:08

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Re: Do lower speed limits result in lower speeds?

Seems like another big brother thing to me.

If the speed limit is set so low that it is impractical, then people are more likely to make a "statement" about how silly it is.

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#6 29-11-07 14:32:11

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Re: Do lower speed limits result in lower speeds?

Without reading the thread I've always felt that variable speed limits are the best approach.

Near a school close to where I practice they flashing signs are switched on in the morning, lunchtime and afternoon.

The road a the best of time is hard to get over 20 mph safely, but if drivers can see a reason for it the it has to work.

SAme as motorways....At busy times its proven that variable speed limits help to control the flow of traffic and in some cases reduce the amount of accidents.


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#7 30-11-07 11:00:04

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Re: Do lower speed limits result in lower speeds?

...many councils don't think through the sizing of the speed cusions/bumps enough.  I see many that you can't go over any faster than 20mph........in a 30 mph zone!  Why?  If they deem 30 to be a suitable speed for the area, then utilise bumps that allow 30, if they think 20 is a more appropriate speed, then change the speed limit to 20 along with a '20mph' speed bump!...

I think this subject was raised on an earlier thread, something like "if there are Xmph speed bumps do you have to do Xmph between the bumps?"
My answer is: "I don't know" but that's because I'm in a completely different jurisdiction.

Down here, you are NOT expected to stay at the same speed between the bumps, but our signage system is probably different.
A stretch of road could have 60km/h posted with the standard black number in red circle regulatory sign, but each bump has a warning sign advising 20km/k. (Our warning signs are US-style black-on-yellow diamonds).
The idea is that idiots who want to speed are forced to slow down at regular intervals, in an attempt to keep the traffic "honest", so to speak.

BTW so-called "traffic calming" devices might calm the traffic, but not the drivers!  big_smile

...If the speed limit is set so low that it is impractical, then people are more likely to make a "statement" about how silly it is...

I don't know whether it's a Big Brother thing but you're right about drivers making a statement.
It's gone crazy down here, perhaps there was a litigation case or something, but now even trimming plants on centre islands results in flashing arrow signs, closed lanes, forests of traffic cones, and slow (40km/h 25mph) special zones extending for ridiculous distances either side.
The only vehicles trying to stick to the limit are driving school cars, even the local Police roar through without slowing.


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#8 03-12-07 16:28:18

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Re: Do lower speed limits result in lower speeds?

Most that pass me by seem to see it as a speed target rather than a speed limit...

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