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#1 23-09-07 18:12:00

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SAFED for Vans starts again

Another £1.2 million is being pumped into subsidised training for van drivers by the government. We did very well out of the last round and seem set to repeat the business over the next year or so.

My other company - The Big Red Fleet Company is looking for any independantly registered SAFED Trainer that found selling free courses not as easy at it should have been. We may be able to sell courses in your area. PM me if interested.

But my question is should the course be changed from being about 75% assessment now that the government have the clear proof that this style of driving really does make a difference. I think so much more could be achieved if we were allowed to do more training. Any thoughts?

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#2 23-09-07 19:41:05

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Courses very easy to sell!

Well booked up already

I always make sure they recieve plenty of training, like it or not!

1.2 million is a real shocker a drop in the ocean when you think what should be pumped in dont you agree big red?


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#3 24-09-07 10:35:23

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

It's not much at all considering how much every single incident costs industry in the UK.

I'm meeting with Claire Shrewsbury (SAFED Programme manager) on Wed and Thurs this week. Any questions?

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#4 21-10-07 20:45:16

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Why can't we get this north of the border? it's not like we don't need it.
I don't understand why it is not  UK wide?

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#5 21-10-07 20:49:21

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Mik - are you sure it's not in Scotland? My training for SAFED is being done by a chap from Glasgow - I think he does SAFED up there too. Might be wrong though.

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#6 21-10-07 20:52:53

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

I'd certainly be interested in any info that anyone has, I was looking into this last time around before it was called off


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#7 21-10-07 20:54:31

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again


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#8 21-10-07 20:57:08

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#9 21-10-07 20:59:04

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Would you like to be trained? There are over 60 trained instructors across Scotland


Interesting

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#10 21-10-07 21:03:04

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

I have checked the SAFED website and the Scotland and Wales areas are blank (no wise cracks please)

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#11 21-10-07 21:03:28

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Would you like to be trained? There are over 60 trained instructors across Scotland


Interesting

I'd rather be DOING the training LOL


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#12 21-10-07 21:06:27

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Its all very interesting but its not SAFED for vans it looks to be HGV's only

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#13 21-10-07 21:08:03

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

I've got a feeling that the deadline for new instructors to apply to be trained has passed and there are no spaces available.

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#14 21-10-07 21:25:15

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Mike,, it details the addresses etc for instructors in this area, once again Jim from CTTS is there


http://www.safed.org.uk/SAFED%20Scotland/SouthE.htm

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#15 21-10-07 21:30:02

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Yeh sure i see that but it is all HGV based not vans!


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#16 21-10-07 21:33:58

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Yeh sure i see that but it is all HGV based not vans!

wheeeeeeeeey heeeeeeeeeey I have LGV1



















but not SAVED trained yet........dam :oops: :oops:


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#17 21-10-07 21:43:04

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

This is the problem SAFED in Scotland only seems to be for HGV's or should i say LGV's.

To harp back to my original question why is it that only the English "white van man" needs training? :?


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#18 22-10-07 08:10:51

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

You just cant have it all - Free Dental and eye checkups and (proposed) free prescriptions are already on offer to the Scots yikes. SAFED for vans is funded by the Department for Transport. But the funding subsidy is getting less, soon it will be sold on a commercial basis only. Perhaps you'll get your chance then 8-)

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#19 22-10-07 08:18:05

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

Free Eye checks yes big_smile
Free Dental checks not to my knowledge yikes
Free prescriptions i wish :x

Hopefully it will extend North of the border it's not like we don't need it and surely it would be so much better if it was country wide, after all we all use the same road system :?


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#20 22-10-07 08:23:32

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...and it's not like we don't need better health care down here  roll (I took the info from a newspaper this morning, probably the mail)

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#21 22-10-07 08:26:31

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

It's all getting very party political  :x


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#22 22-10-07 09:38:16

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

In the end only 8 more spaces were allocated for training new SAFED trainers and yes, the deadline did pass on 25th September.

Once SAFED becomes a stand alone commercial product then we'd love to train you all up. But that also depends on whether anyone can sell courses at the full rate.

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#23 22-10-07 09:41:52

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

When do you see that happening Big red?

Are the the rates set to high?

Was their a large goverment subsidy to entice companies to take up training?


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#24 22-10-07 10:55:49

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

The funding subsidy was purely to kick start the eco/safety van driver training market. The current phase ends in March 08 where the subsidy will be reduced from £125 per driver to £75 per driver.

On the 2 driver to one trainer basis this equates to a cost to each company of £100 per day for now and £200 per day from March 08 to March 09. Both very affordable!!

There may be a small subsidy in 09/10 but don't bet on it.

The full current rate of £350 per day should be acceptable by all and enables trainers to be paid a good rate.

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#25 22-10-07 21:25:39

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Re: SAFED for Vans starts again

In the end only 8 more spaces were allocated for training new SAFED trainers and yes, the deadline did pass on 25th September.....

Wow, only 8?  What Nationwide?  I attend my training on the 4th & 5th November at WTTL in Devizes, together with another ADI from Swindon.  Looking forward to it.

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