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#1 21-09-06 18:46:53

llthomas21
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accounts confusion

Can somebody explain to me (in simple terms) how my accounts will work? fbtc are dealing with my accounts as I have 6 months free membership.

Are there any other expenses that I can claim for, apart from the obvious? Will I be able to claim for my additional training and also the mileage that I do to get my to these lessons?

Any advice greatly appreciated! :?


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#2 21-09-06 19:06:51

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Re: accounts confusion

Hi llthomas21
Re additional training if you mean CPD yes you can claim.

If you mean additional training in order to pass parts 1 2 or 3 NO

No claim is permitted for initial qualification for any profession/occupation.

Just imagine the size of the claims for University degrees if they did allow them.

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#3 22-09-06 20:06:06

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Re: accounts confusion

'don't forget the small things  like clothing. E.G. If you have suits or ties  that you only wear while working  those are deductables too.'


You can only claim fo clothing iff they have a logo on - any other type of clothing could be worn outside of 'work' and as such will not be allowed against tax


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#4 18-01-07 14:46:00

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Re: accounts confusion

FBTC are usually pritty good.....If you drop them an email or call they will answer all your questions.

Its very confusing because there seems to be alot of myths floating around, and I remember being told I could claim for my training prior to becoming an Adi.

What I did claim thou was a computer which was purposely bought for the business.

Clothing.....Yes as above...Must be a logo or something you would not wear outside of work.

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#5 18-01-07 15:04:17

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Re: accounts confusion

I was told that clothing doesnt come into it. but remember a watch or sunglasses or carwashes or paper for your printer or any office supplies including your kids pens you buy. A dog if you have one can be a guard dog for your premises and if you have a spare room as an office you can charge yourself rent. telephone at home mobile phone internet charges if you have a website. Airfreshner for car. the occasional lunch as long as notat the ritz. or even the stay if you went on trip to sandy balls can be claimed as a business meeting.. There are lots more just be creative and your accountant will submit it if its valid.


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#6 18-01-07 19:47:07

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Re: accounts confusion

Beware of the things you are claiming for Captain, the rules are you must prove that the item is used 100% for your job, sunglasses and watches are not solely for use in your job and will be thrown out if you get an inspection and the tax will have to repaid, a Guard dog also is not needed for a driving instructor!... at least not down here on the coast so again will be discounted, don't charge yourself rent either as that starts you down the path of Capital Gains if you move house.....
if in doubt ask the tax man....only they will give the answer....unless your accountant is doing audited accounts you will still be liable for tax on the items

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#7 19-01-07 16:40:47

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Re: accounts confusion

have to agree with Sue,  take advise from the people in the know, the Tax people, they are much more helpful nowadays


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#8 19-01-07 16:49:44

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Love it Martin  lol


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#9 03-04-07 19:31:53

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Re: accounts confusion

If you contact your local tax office they can arrange for someone to come out to talk to you, or you can make an appointment to answer any qeustions.

I had used an acountant for the past few years, but decided to self assess last year, made an appointment and went through with their advisor what I could claim for and where to put it on the form, very useful and helpful they were too !

Dont be afraid to ask, they dont bite, honest  big_smile

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#10 04-04-07 18:42:32

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Re: accounts confusion

Milage= YES.  Only time milage cannot be included is if you are travelling to and from a single place of work.  As an instructor travelling to pupils locations, this is a legitimate expense claim.

Basically, ANYTHING that you buy for the purposes of your business that you would not otherwise buy should be deductable. don't forget the small things  like clothing. E.G. If you have suits or ties  that you only wear while working  those are deductables too.

Dont forget a portion of fone calls and line rental if you use your home/mobile fones to make and receive work related calls, a portion of electric and heating costs (if you have a room at home solely for work) computer equipment/software if you use your pc for work related tasks  such as accounting, appoinment bookings, etc.
A good book-keeper/ accountant should advise you what to claim for and how much, but can  only guide you if you inform them of all your expenses to start with. also remember, your final accounts and tax declaration  is YOUR responsibility and not your accountants  unless the accounts are audited and certified by the accountant, which would be wayyyyyyy too expensive for the likes  of an ADI. So remember, if your accountant cocks up on your accounts, it's you that is liable.

According to HMRC your mileage from home to your first appointment and mileage from your last appointment to home is private mileage and therefore not tax deductable.
I would not claim for electric and gas if you own your own property as your home would then be classed as being used for business,this gives rise to tax issues if you sell your house.


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#11 04-04-07 18:50:32

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Re: accounts confusion

A lot of these things are argueable - the ivor's point about the mileage above is good, but my response to the tax office was - why would I take the car if it was private - I'd walk, and they were ok about this.

Watch out for clothing - often unless it is logo'd they will refuse it, and certain things with regards bills are very hard to work out. I'm going to take everything I have to the tax office and spend some time with them working through the whole self-assessment form. I'll make sure I can justify everything in my head, and I'm going to have as many figures to justify things as possible.

A good accountant can do this for you, and if you aren't sure what to claim for they can save you their fee - I just fancy trying to do it for myself this year. I'll let you know if I win or lose!

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#12 07-04-07 20:27:24

standon11
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Re: accounts confusion

regards the clothing issue,my accountant put the clothes through for me no problem & didn't have to be logo'd at all.tax man isn't going to chase you up over a few clothes,theyv'e got bigger fish to fry.as long as you don't take the mickey & put armani suits at £700 through the books you'll be fine.

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#13 08-04-07 23:47:25

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Re: accounts confusion

as long as you don't take the mickey & put armani suits at £700 through the books you'll be fine.

ONLY £700 big_smile yikes roll


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#14 09-04-07 08:25:45

jr
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Re: accounts confusion

Quote from Standon "regards the clothing issue,my accountant put the clothes through for me no problem & didn't have to be logo'd at all.tax man isn't going to chase you up over a few clothes,theyv'e got bigger fish to fry.as long as you don't take the mickey & put armani suits at £700 through the books you'll be fine".

It only becomes a problem when the tax man does an investigation which I found out to my cost and I am a very little fish. 
John

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#15 09-04-07 09:09:16

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Re: accounts confusion

l agree totally with john here !......you can put whatever you want thro as expenses etc on your tax returns , their are a number of occasions that will trigger an inspection and it is only at this point you will have to be able to prove and justify each expense to the tax man , if you can't prove an item it is only natural that they will delve deeper into your finances ,not something even if you are squeaky clean you want to deal with , my advice to any of our new instructors is not to claim for anything that a. cannot be backed up by a valid receipt and b. has not been checked out with the tax office , be aware that unless you are paying an accountant to verify your accounts (incredibly expensive) whatever is put thro is your responsibilty and stating " my accountant said it was ok" will not remove this responsibilty , be aware....

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#16 24-10-07 17:07:47

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Re: accounts confusion

Hi.
I have been told you can claim  when you give your first lesson free? is this right??

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