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#51 05-01-15 06:31:04

Merlin
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Re: D1 101

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s … sponse.pdf

Acquired rights in respect of DCPC for drivers holding D(NFHR) and D1(NFHR) driving licence entitlements

Representations were received during the consultation from some stakeholders requesting that those drivers holding restricted D and D1 driving licence entitlements obtained after 1991 and pre 1997 (driving not for hire or reward – NFHR) should be considered to have acquired rights in respect of DCPC.
Situations have been highlighted, such as farmers driving casual workers around the farm in a minibus during harvest season, where it has been suggested DCPC would place an unnecessary burden on such drivers.

We have carefully considered the implications of changing current policy to take the view that drivers holding restricted D and D1 driving licence entitlements have acquired rights in respect of DCPC. This does not require amendment to the existing regulations.
Considering these drivers to have acquired rights will reduce the burden of requiring them to undertake the initial DCPC qualification. They will, however, be required to undertake 35 hours periodic training every five years, unless otherwise covered by an exemption, and will be required to complete the first tranche of training before 10 September 2013.

This measure also has road safety benefits as these drivers, who were not obliged to undergo a driving test in a minibus will be required to undertake regular training.

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#52 05-01-15 09:40:30

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Re: D1 101

IMPORTANT UPDATE = I got it wrong!

I called the Driver CPC hotline 0191 201 8112 just now and it now seems that the D1 101 can be added to a DQC but it need requesting by Email

This means that a driver with just pre 97 categories does the 35 hours and gets DQC with just LGV on it but then requests to have the D1 101 for PCV to be added

To Merlin - this means that it looks like you need to do the 35 hours as the minibus is being used for commercial purposes even though it is being driven on your D1 101


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#53 05-01-15 15:19:50

ratty
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Re: D1 101

(ROG) wrote:

Driver C cannot do driver cpc because the system does not recognise the D1 101 as a PCV so any dcpc hours done will not upload

Whoever wrote that is a TWAT

But at least they can express their views without having to resort to bad language on a public forum!

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#54 05-01-15 18:56:49

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Registered: 23-08-10
Posts: 1,551

Re: D1 101

ratty wrote:
(ROG) wrote:

Driver C cannot do driver cpc because the system does not recognise the D1 101 as a PCV so any dcpc hours done will not upload

Whoever wrote that is a TWAT

But at least they can express their views without having to resort to bad language on a public forum!

Agreed - not my best moment = red faced


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#55 05-01-15 22:45:19

trunkmonkey
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Registered: 05-03-09
Posts: 747

Re: D1 101

(ROG) wrote:
ratty wrote:
(ROG) wrote:

Driver C cannot do driver cpc because the system does not recognise the D1 101 as a PCV so any dcpc hours done will not upload

Whoever wrote that is a TWAT

But at least they can express their views without having to resort to bad language on a public forum!

Agreed - not my best moment = red faced

Rog,
You can go back and delete it and I'm sure Ratty will do the same. Then I'll edit this one and no one will be any the wiser.

You did check with the DCPC Section and admitted you got it wrong, that deserves a pat on the back.

So where were we?

D1 (101) to drive the minibus
Must complete 35hrs of CPC and get his DQC before he can drive it.

Hang on!
Isn't that what I said in my first post big_smile

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#56 07-01-15 14:17:27

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Re: D1 101

I'm new to this forum so please forgive any posting on the wrong page type issues. Reading some of the posts I can see the technical know-how present in the membership. I have lost a couple of freelance DCPC trainers (HGV and PSV) and am looking to replace. However, I've googled with absolutely no luck in finding such people. Can anyone help. Our location is north London. Thanks

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#57 07-01-15 14:46:54

ratty
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Re: D1 101

What is your company called and where are you in north London?

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#58 16-01-15 12:11:10

Merlin
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Re: D1 101

Hi  First of all thanks to everyone who gave me advice on this. My employer has now decided that we do need the CPC. Nationwide its up to 1000 drivers!!

Thanks

Big J

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#59 16-01-15 20:38:51

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Re: D1 101

Merlin wrote:

Hi  First of all thanks to everyone who gave me advice on this. My employer has now decided that we do need the CPC. Nationwide its up to 1000 drivers!!

Thanks

Big J

How many drivers at each location?

Another thought - if they need dcpc and do not currently have it then they cannot drive until they do !!

Yet another thought - if any passed the DSA D1 test after 09/09/2008 then they will need to pass initial PCV modules 2 and 4

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#60 16-01-15 21:01:07

Merlin
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Re: D1 101

There are 40 - 50 drivers at each base. The vast majority have the pre 1997 D1E (101) licence. All minibus driving is suspended until further notice.

Thanks

Big J

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