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#1 04-05-14 07:56:53

gabby_adi
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Learner - Auto to Manual Conversion - how to teach clutch control etc?

I have a new learner that is a auto to manual conversion - wants a manual licence...she passed 10 years ago in an auto (because her instructor did clutch control for her on lessons when she originally started to learn in a manual and on her test she fell to bits when she needed clutch control - she had no idea)

So she passed in an auto

Learner has had a few lessons with me...so far

The learner tends to stall/roll the car back at hill junction/hill traffic lights very often especially with traffic behind (says she is thinking about the traffic behind and if she rolls back)

Gear changes - down changes gear when the car is not at the right speed e.g. (2nd into 1st at 15mph or 3rd into 2nd at 20mph....) making the car strain under the pressure of the wrong gear

Rolling hill junctions the leaner cant really do these because they are not good with the clutch work

What plan of action do you recommend for this leaner for them to master the clutch and gears?

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#2 04-05-14 08:26:57

Roadmaster
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Re: Learner - Auto to Manual Conversion - how to teach clutch control etc?

How do you avoid rolling back?    Teach them as you do,  i.e.  come off footbrake before car stops, into 1st and gas/bring clutch to biting point just as car stops.

Find a quiet road on a hill to practice it.

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#3 04-05-14 08:40:26

gabby_adi
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Re: Learner - Auto to Manual Conversion - how to teach clutch control etc?

She is getting first gear even before the car stops about 12 feet before and sometimes before.... she keeps on getting 1st gear way to early because she fears getting the car to almost stop and then get first gear at hill junctions - so she gets the 1st gear change way

Roadmaster wrote:

How do you avoid rolling back?    Teach them as you do,  i.e.  come off footbrake before car stops, into 1st and gas/bring clutch to biting point just as car stops.

Find a quiet road on a hill to practice it.

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#4 04-05-14 08:44:54

Roadmaster
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Re: Learner - Auto to Manual Conversion - how to teach clutch control etc?

gabby_adi wrote:

She is getting first gear even before the car stops about 12 feet before and sometimes before.... she keeps on getting 1st gear way to early because she fears getting the car to almost stop and then get first gear at hill junctions - so she gets the 1st gear change way


To avoid rolling back you need to get first gear before the car stops, as I've already described.  It's the timing of the ear change you need to work on.  Demonstrate how you do it.

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#5 04-05-14 08:53:54

Lewinpeter1
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Re: Learner - Auto to Manual Conversion - how to teach clutch control etc?

Hi
12 feet before is better than 1 foot after!
Gives them sometime to play with the clutch before its critical.
Quiet hills and plenty of practice before giving the added pressure of junctions.
Eyes closed and find the bite for static hill starts.You are their eyes.
Peter


Dont press that,oh @@##!

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#6 04-05-14 15:48:36

kaf
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Re: Learner - Auto to Manual Conversion - how to teach clutch control etc?

It's not how far before that is her problem, it's approach speed.  You,can get it in first as early as you like, provided you are going slowly enough!

If she is approaching too fast she will not be giving herself time to get it done.

She will be used to approaching at speed, with foot on brake, because that's how you do it in an auto.

Back to basics,get approach speed down early and very slow,then she will have time to slide it into first at the correct time

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