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#1 27-05-05 13:17:01

Crane
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PST 5

Hi all!  smile

I was wondering when to talk about the emergency stop in the briefing. If I recap mirrors before leaving tc,  would we (as with other manoeuvres) pull up in a suitable road and talk through the em.stop,  or does this need to be adressed before leaving tc.  I would think it's too much to go through before driving off,  but I'm not sure. :oops:

Any ideas?


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#2 27-05-05 14:52:12

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Re: PST 5

I was told to do a recap on mirror use before you actually leave the test centre, explainining that you'll carry out the brief on the ES when you get to a more suitable location. During the drive you make sure the SE doesn't make any faults on mirror use. You will be driving to a different location for the ES.

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#3 27-05-05 16:45:18

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Re: PST 5

vickyrhodes wrote:

I was told to do a recap on mirror use before you actually leave the test centre, explainining that you'll carry out the brief on the ES when you get to a more suitable location. During the drive you make sure the SE doesn't make any faults on mirror use. You will be driving to a different location for the ES.

Spot on. I did this PST on my part three.

#4 27-05-05 17:22:15

Crane
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Re: PST 5

big_smile  Thanks!

I'm just working on my briefing.  Makes more sense to brief just before the ES.


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#5 27-05-05 18:35:11

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Remember to take control. If you are trying to do an ES and there are cars behind pull them over. Let the cars go by so you will have an empty road. Don't just drive round hoping the cars will turn off.

Hope this helps.


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#6 29-05-05 02:39:57

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Re: PST 5

Hi,

Just a quick bit of advice from experience with this pst . . .

The above answers are spot on. Brief on mirror use at the TC car park, then drive to a suitable location to do the E Stop. Brief on the E Stop at the location, where you and the SE can see the road layout and conditions ahead.

The thing to be careful of is running out of time after the mirrors briefing, and not having enough time left to complete the E Stop. It does happen. Trainees sometimes spend too long explaining mirror use, going over and over what's already been said, and run out of time.

Keep the briefings brief. Check prior knowledge and only teach what isn't already known. Get the car moving as soon as you can.

regards,


Dave Hartley
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you just find new ways of not doing it right.

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#7 29-05-05 15:15:18

Crane
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Re: PST 5

Hi again!

Did my practise on first part of pst5 yesterday.  Took me 4 mins. for introdruction and mirror recap.  Drove to quiet road and took 5 mins. on ES briefing (got a bit in a muddle).  It went well. smile

Did get told to do it all together on test.  Mhmm,  I though agree with all of you. As Django did it on his test,  there should not be a problem.

Thanks. smile


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#8 29-05-05 19:11:27

leslie
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Re: PST 5

dashdriving.com wrote:

The thing to be careful of is running out of time after the mirrors briefing, and not having enough time left to complete the E Stop. It does happen. Trainees sometimes spend too long explaining mirror use, going over and over what's already been said, and run out of time.

Keep the briefings brief. Check prior knowledge and only teach what isn't already known. Get the car moving as soon as you can.

regards,

Also, if the SE is keen to get going after the mirror Q&A recap, take the hint and get going.


Leslie

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#9 30-05-05 18:07:00

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Re: PST 5

Fantastic news have a couple of pints on me. Im glad to here you
can get through on your 3rd atempt, must have been nervracking though.
Drewer.

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#10 31-05-05 16:02:12

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Re: PST 5

Hi

I agree with Dash and had a couple of PDI's pass on this recently

Do mirrors in the car park - then drive somewhere to do EM brief

The SE actually told my last PDI thats what he wanted

REMEMBER -- The mirrors on the way to check he is checking them all the time

This is one of the most common reasons for failing this PST

The PDI gives the brief on mirrors and then sits back and says nothing when the SE does not check them - common errors are

Mirror SIGNAL Mirror (quite a hard one to spot) (when changing direction)

Mirrors AFTER moving out around a parked car

Mirrors AFTER braking

SIGNAL - mirror mirror

This PST is reasonably easy as you have just given a brief on mirrors and the SE wants to see you looking to see if he is checking the correct ones and at the correct time

Just remember what you had to do to pass the part 2 and tell the SE what he is doing wrong and what he should be doing - and why

Good luck

Regards   lol

Jeni


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