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#1 21-11-08 17:38:02

scannermanh
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Passed today

Hi All
Qualified today, 5/4 pst6 crossings/signals & reverse park.
Examiner said I nearly got a 6 but gave him a wrong bit of info'
it was my 3rd attempt, last day of my two year period.
Normally take things in my stride without nerves (wedding,
birth of children etc.) but was I kaking it.
Its taken me this long to realise how to pass it and once I
did it I realise its not that difficult.
Would like to thank everybody who has posted on this forum
for the infomation that has helped me pass at last. big_smile big_smile big_smile


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#2 21-11-08 17:41:55

KevB
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Re: Passed today

Fantastic news !!!

I am really pleased for you.
Feet up, await the green badge (assuming you've sent off for it, LOL) and good luck for the future.

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#3 21-11-08 17:44:19

DampDog
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Re: Passed today

it was my 3rd attempt, last day of my two year period.

Love the timing! Makes it feel even more of an achievement. Good for you, get that form sent off for that badge, you've earned it. (If you haven't already)

DD


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I used to be a compleat idiot, until some bits fell off...

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#4 21-11-08 18:37:59

binty1968
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Re: Passed today

big_smile Congratulationsssssss  big_smile
Enjoy and good luck!

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#5 21-11-08 18:55:42

Luchell
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Re: Passed today

CONGRATULATIONS!  lol lol

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#6 22-11-08 00:18:18

Lily-Anne
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Re: Passed today

Brilliant news.  Makes for a good Christmas  smile

One of my PDI's passed today too.


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#7 22-11-08 21:27:00

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Re: Passed today

Fanbloodytastic m8,,, very well done smile

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#8 23-11-08 14:24:43

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Re: Passed today

Well done, and very well deserved smile


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#9 23-11-08 16:07:25

wolves
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Re: Passed today

Hi
Well done on your pass.
You wrote
Its taken me this long to realise how to pass it and once I
did it I realise its not that difficult.

What did you realise,,,,any advice???
It may help me prehaps


Part 1.....100% & 57  passed 1st Time
Part 2.....4 minors     Passed 1st Time
Part 3.....3 & 3         Failed 1st attempt
part 3.....2 & 3         Failed 2nd attempt
part 3.....3 & 4         Failed 3rd attempt
part 1..Round2..96% & 68% passed 1st time
Part 2..Round2..3 minors 1 serious failed 1st attempt
Part 2..Round2..5 minors Passed 2nd attempt
Part 3..Round2..4 & 3 Failed 1st attempt
part 3..round2..3 & 3 failed 2nd attempt
part 3..round2..4 & 5 PASSED 3rd attempt woohoo!

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#10 23-11-08 22:14:56

scannermanh
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Re: Passed today

Hi Wolves
Phase 1
I didn't get too worried about the recap, objective, main points, just made sure it was OK,
Recap.
Say hello and Introduce yourself, repeat the points of the word picture back as questions
as an intro to the recap.
Ask questions that apply to what your gonna teach e.g. junctions
and turns, ask about MSPSL,
Manoeuvres, ask about co-ordination of controls, observation and steering.
If you get a positive response i.e. they have been taught it already, then by reminding
them, its covered. Remember its not "have you been taught how to use your mirrors"
but "how, why,what you looking for, why this one flat" etc extract what they know.
Objective.
Tell them what you're gonna teach, how you're gonna do it, what they should be able to do at the end
and why they need to be able to do it
Brief.
I looked at the PST sheets to find exactly what has to be covered, I just listed it in my plan,
e.g. mirrors, if in the recap, they showed you they've been taught it then ask a question or skip to
the next point, only teach the points they don't know about.
Now the test up to this point doesn't have to be perfect, be relaxed, make a reasonable
effort at it, go through the points as on the PST, a LITTLE brief on each.
While your going thru your brief, try to interact a bit, look at them most of the time, just
look at your notes to get the next point, Don't forget to show your diagrams keep them simple
above all keep it concise and brief, its the MAIN points they're after not all the minuscule points.
You've done your brief, now to the important part, as he drives, you have to control him, unless
you know he's done it before then talk him through it. Watch him like a hawk as he goes through
his routines, every time you give back the directions, RAMPS road ahead, mirror, give direction
and watch pupil for any mistakes, if you see any, and there will be, tell them straight away, now
if its serious, pull them over, tell them something good they did i.e "your mirrors were good but you
signaled too late but don't worry we can fix that" now find out why the mistake happened, tell
them the consequenses, DON'T let it happen again. There may be a number of faults for you to spot and
fix, you have to spot and deal with them all, they are not supposed to swamp you but if you don't deal
with them you may feel swamped.
I talked him thru for a while, watched the time and with about five mins to go pulled over and told him
I was going to move the level of instruction up to try to get some independence from him this he agreed
to and he was independent on nearly all but still prompted on one at the end of the Phase.
So I taught him something, caught and dealt with all his mistakes, not perfectly, I let him signal late twice
before I pulled him over for a chat.
Got a 5, he said I gave him a bit of duff info about signaling around park cars or he would have given a 6.
If yer still with me Phase 2
Reverse park, full license holder, he's never done it before.
Taught it as a phase 1 but had to remember he can drive, but not properly.
concentrated on PST main points asked where he looks when reversing-expand, how does he control
speed when slow-expand, does he use pull push when steering-expend, found out what he did
so as not to teach the already known in the brief.
Had he known how to do it, but couldn't do it properly, I wouldn't brief but just get him to do it and see
where he was going wrong.
Told him that I would give him reference points to use on the first attempt but as different size drivers
need different points the first run would be a "sighting" run to adjust after. I talked him through every thing
and watched him like a hawk again, made sure he did everything correctly. He put in a clutch fault, foot on
brake, clutch up too high so as he released the brake he moved a little too quickly, didn't catch it straight away,
think he did it a couple of times so caught it on the third attempt. He tried to steer the wrong way but stopped him
before he could turn the wheel much.
First & second time,talk through, third time prompted and fourth independent.
he said he had to get back now, another appointment. I knew this was not the end of the phase,
watched him closely as we drove back, prepared to fix any faults he may still make, he couldn't
I wouldn't let him, sure he would if I had relaxed.
Back at the TC I offered a summary, he said yes so asked questions on what we had done to see
if he had learnt after three questions, answered correctly he ended the phase and the test
Got a 4, didn't pick up the clutch fault quickly enough.
The thing I learnt is your briefs can be weak with strong core comps but not the other way round.
YOU MUST WATCH EVERYTHING THEY DO AS THEY DO IT if its wrong say it, talk about why, fix it.
The very best luck on your next attempt, remember he wants you to treat him like a pupil so treat
him like one. I hope this was not too long winded and it's of some help.


Scannermanh the Muppet
nils

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#11 24-11-08 20:03:28

wolves
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Registered: 15-02-06
Posts: 130

Re: Passed today

Hi scannermanh 

Thank's for the reply,brilliant write up, with good tips. good luck in your new career.
Best wishes Paul


Part 1.....100% & 57  passed 1st Time
Part 2.....4 minors     Passed 1st Time
Part 3.....3 & 3         Failed 1st attempt
part 3.....2 & 3         Failed 2nd attempt
part 3.....3 & 4         Failed 3rd attempt
part 1..Round2..96% & 68% passed 1st time
Part 2..Round2..3 minors 1 serious failed 1st attempt
Part 2..Round2..5 minors Passed 2nd attempt
Part 3..Round2..4 & 3 Failed 1st attempt
part 3..round2..3 & 3 failed 2nd attempt
part 3..round2..4 & 5 PASSED 3rd attempt woohoo!

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#12 25-11-08 19:16:32

wolves
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Registered: 15-02-06
Posts: 130

Re: Passed today

HereComesTrouble
I have sent you a personal message.
regards Paul


Part 1.....100% & 57  passed 1st Time
Part 2.....4 minors     Passed 1st Time
Part 3.....3 & 3         Failed 1st attempt
part 3.....2 & 3         Failed 2nd attempt
part 3.....3 & 4         Failed 3rd attempt
part 1..Round2..96% & 68% passed 1st time
Part 2..Round2..3 minors 1 serious failed 1st attempt
Part 2..Round2..5 minors Passed 2nd attempt
Part 3..Round2..4 & 3 Failed 1st attempt
part 3..round2..3 & 3 failed 2nd attempt
part 3..round2..4 & 5 PASSED 3rd attempt woohoo!

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