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#1 17-11-08 22:12:26

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New Honda jazz

Took the 1.4 ES for a test drive this morning.

Drivers seat is adjustable for height as well as rake. All controls are clear and steering column stalks traditional in use.

Car seems much bigger than old Jazz and a huge step forward in terms of quality of interior.

All engines are petrol and should return around 6 mpg worse fuel consumption than a similar sized diesel engined car. But with a price differential of 14p per litre in fuel prices now, it is likely that overall fuel bills will only be a little more in the petrol engined car.

The car seems a little taller than my Corsa, so you sit higher. However the waistline is similar, so the glass area is proprtionaly lower, this will allow greater visibilty for shorter drivers, this is especially noticeable to the rear. Though in common with most modern cars the thickness of the 'C' pillars restricts view to the rear quarters. The front 'A' pillars are certainly thinner than the Corsa.

Door mirrors are large and they are heated and fold electrically. They give a good view of the road and to the sides of the car.

Driving on the road the car is very refined and quiet, the 100 bhp engine is lively and well matched to the gearbox. The gearchange is light, slick and precise. Steering is light and precise.

Ride is smooth and wind noise very limited at all speeds up to 70mph.

For manouvres the car has a very small turning circle, a TIR was ridiculously easy, as was a parallel park.

Reverse to the left needed mirror use, similar to the Corsa, but with such big mirrors, it was easy to do without having to adjust them.

The boot is huge compared to most cars of this size, especially in terms of it's width. the 'magic seats' add to the versitality of the car.

The speedo is clearly visible form the passenger seat from any speed upwards of 20mph, so no need for the free secondary speedo on offer.

There is no spare wheel, an inflation kit is supplied. However a new steel wheel costs less than £100 and the car has a jack supplied. There is also a wheel shaped space under the boot floor to store a full sized spare in.

Storage space in the cabin is impressive, there are little storage holes everywhere, loads of room for pens, sunglasses, glasses, drink bottles etc. the is also a refrigerated storage box in the dash big enough for a bottle of drink.

Warranty is standard 3 years, but 90,000 miles, pre-paid servicing is £525 for 67,500 miles. (servicing intervals are 12,500 so that is 5 services).

Overall I was blown away with the way the car has been put together, the way it drives and feels.

Price for the 1.4 ES is £11,400 on the road. Discounts are not easy to get as it is brand new and they are selling every one they can import. Around £300 is the best you may find, but Honda will supply and dealer fit Dual controls for free.

One option is ambient lighting of the footwell, a calm blue, useful for seeing controls for beginner lessons on dark evenings.

I was so impressed that I have placed an order, delivery time will be a couple of weeks.

I will update  this review once my pupils give thier verdict on it.

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#2 18-11-08 00:12:39

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Re: New Honda jazz

There is no spare wheel, an inflation kit is supplied. However a new steel wheel costs less than £100 and the car has a jack supplied. There is also a wheel shaped space under the boot floor to store a full sized spare in.

I will update  this review once my pupils give thier verdict on it.

Must admit, this is one of the cars I was considering if I go Indy next year - look forward to any review you give once in use.

A bit strange how a space for a wheel and a wheel jack are supplied but you have to pay extra for the wheel itself.  Is this just a mechanism for the sales figure to look good in comparative tables?

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#3 18-11-08 06:30:47

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Re: New Honda jazz

Droolling as I write, only thing is, nearly all my family drive Honda's, I like to be a little different.

Whats the VED?

Disliked the look of old jazz with the body kit, looked ridiculous.


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#4 18-11-08 07:44:38

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Re: New Honda jazz

The VED is £120 per year. (Band C)

The 'spare wheel' area has been converted into extra storage space. It may be that the floorplan shape was developed for other markets where a spare is essential, but for europe the additional storage was seen as a better marketing option.

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#5 18-11-08 19:58:08

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Re: New Honda jazz

The old car was seriously good, this looks outstanding. Had a good snoop last week. Why spend similair money on anything else!


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#6 05-12-08 17:45:24

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Re: New Honda jazz

Well, the new car is here and I am a very happy bunny.

Guys, you must test drive this car before you buy anything else.

It is so smooth and silent, pupils keep thinking they have stalled it!!

The serial stallers of the Corsa love this car, it is much less stallable than the diesel corsa, and you can get the clutch down to rescue it if you need to, the Corsa just gave way with a bang.

You need to use the gas a bit on manouvres, the corsa did it on tickover, but that is not a problem. The gearchange is really slick and the clutch incredibly light and smooth.

There is an amazing amount of little hidy holes to put pens, sunglasses, glasses, drink, chocolate, loose change etc, and all reachable from either the drivers or passenger seat.

I have to say that the leg room on the passenger side is a little short, especially with duals fitted, but there is loads on the drivers side. My short pupils like how high the seat will pump up, the tall ones have no problems either.

The indicators and other controls are simple and easy to use.

The door mirrors are enormous, they are like the ears of Dumbo the elephant. When set up properly they do not need any adjustment for the manouvres, you can see everything.

Loads of room in the boot for anything you can imagine and a secret compartment built into the underside of the back seat for hiding cash or valuables.

Speedo is clearly visible from passenger seat for speeds of 20mph and above, contrary to the review in 'driving instructor' this week.

I am very pleased indeed and would recommend this car as a tuition vehicle to anybody.

First tank of fuel gave 40mpg, only 5 mpg less than the Diesel Corsa, but 15p a litre cheaper fuel, filled it up for £29 from running on fumes!



PS. Forgot to mention, rear and brake lights are LED's so will never blow, all other bulbs can be reached without tools and changed within 3 minutes, I know 'cause I have tried them all.

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#7 05-12-08 17:53:26

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Re: New Honda jazz

Loads of room in the boot for anything you can imagine and a secret compartment built into the underside of the back seat for hiding cash or valuables.

Well that`s blown that now, not secret anymore since you put on the net  big_smile


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#8 08-03-09 21:22:02

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Re: New Honda jazz

Test drove 1.4 EX today. Very impressive spec, rain sensing wipers, auto lights, privacy glass, panoramic roof. Agree with Kaf speedo is visible from 20mph ish. Mirrors great, turning circle minute.

Much harder to stall than my husband's 2002 jazz. Which the salesman referred to as the 'classic jazz' big_smile

Not as much/useful stowage as yaris [only 1 seatback pocket, I use these for presenters & diary], that & the £120 VED band are the only minuses.


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#9 08-03-09 22:18:29

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Re: New Honda jazz

Sophie wait for the new POLO!

Diesel rules again 70 mpg standard and 85 mpg in the bluemotion (Both combined figures) The Dampdogs dream motor! Or 74 mpg Golf bluemotion (Too big for the Dampdog big_smile) due summer. All whisker quiet. Plus quality has gone through the roof.

Have to agree with Dampdog the Polo is the cream of the new motor line up.


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#10 11-03-09 18:55:02

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Re: New Honda jazz

Well I have had my jazz for 3 months and 8,000 miles.

I have to say, I am really glad I bought it at this stage. The only problem I have had is that the variable service system told me it needed a service at 3,900 miles !! Honda are new to this bit of technology and are still scratching thier heads trying to work out why it did that. I will just wait till 12,500 and get it serviced then.

The pupils love it, it turns on a sixpence for the TIR, the brake assist takes some getting used to  as when you hit them for the E/S the system takes over as it stops almost dead, with the ABS activating every time. But provided you use the gas a bit it does not easily stall, pulls well, is very quiet and refined.

Getting 43mpg, in comparison my 1.3 Diesel Corsa got 45mpg, forget the figures from the manufacturers they are fairy tails, all of them!  With petrol being 10p litre cheaper than diesel, I am no worse off.

The car is still a joy to drive and with Hondas great service offer is cheap to run.

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#11 20-07-09 16:55:03

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Re: New Honda jazz

Update on the jazz.

16,000 miles covered.

The jazz has variable servicing intervals, determined by the computer. Bit concerned when mine came on asking for a service at 4,500 miles. Supplying dealer was hopeless in getting an answer, so waited until normal 12000 service interval and took to another dealer. car serviced, 4,500 miles later service light came on again.
The new dealer took this up with Honda.
They have a small problem with the car computer and it's service intervals, but as I bought the 65000 mile service plan for £550 Honda will service it every time it asks for a service until that mileage for nothing!

So unless they work out what the fault is they will service my car 15 times before the service plan runs out. !! Not a bad deal, I get an oil and filter change every 4500, and it only takes 30 mins.

So if you buy a Jazz you MUST buy the service deal, It's a no brainer!

I have had some excess wear on the passenger side carpet, due to the shape of the floorpan, my heel rubs the same spot every time I get out, it will be replaced under warranty. To avoid this problem, make sure the floor mats overlap the raised floor area beneath the passenger seat.

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#12 20-07-09 18:44:29

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Re: New Honda jazz

Wow Kaf, you seem to be logging up the miles!

At what mileage do you intend to replace?

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#13 21-07-09 07:32:56

kaf
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Re: New Honda jazz

If the car keeps running well, I might as well run it into the ground to get the best value from it.

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#14 19-09-09 20:23:41

hoylake
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Re: New Honda jazz

How many adi's would i need to sign a petition to get Honda to produce a diesel jazz?


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#15 20-09-09 20:35:22

kaf
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Re: New Honda jazz

Why?..............................I get 3 mpg less from my petrol Jazz than from my old 1.3 CDTi Corsa.

The car is quieter, more refined and petrol still a little cheaper than diesel, in the winter the differential will increase a bit more.

What is the point of buying a diesel?    I have had both and would not go near a small diesel again.

Big diesel engines are great, small ones are not so.

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#16 21-09-09 20:15:32

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Re: New Honda jazz

My other half has the old jazz and averages over 49mpg, I'm going to give it serious consideration when I swap.
My 08 Yaris has 40K on the clock so it will be quite soon.
Like the pink colour, but that may put off some potential clients.  neutral


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#17 05-02-10 09:38:32

kaf
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Re: New Honda jazz

Jazz now comes with Duals and 50,000 free servicing for ADI's

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#18 05-02-10 19:36:05

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Re: New Honda jazz

Its no good Kaf Sophie has a 6 speed TSI on the way  big_smile


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#19 05-02-10 20:43:58

hoylake
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Re: New Honda jazz

big_smile big_smile big_smile


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#20 04-08-10 16:34:24

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Re: New Honda jazz

UPDATE - at 39,000 miles car developed a metallic rattle on acceleration from 35 to 40 in 5th, left the car with dealer for a week whilst I was on holiday to resolve.

They stripped the transmission and replaced all the bearings, which fixed it, took the opportunity to replace the clutch free of labour charges whilst the gearbox was out.

This was a problem on some previous Jazz models as well, car now like new, pupils still love it.

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#21 12-08-10 23:06:46

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Re: New Honda jazz

Test drove a 1.25 Jazz last weekend and loved it.  Tells you when to change up or down the gears when at optimum revs with a lit up green arrow!  Is this ok for use on test?  They can offer you a guaranteed 3yr resale price too.  Comes standard in red, any other colour costs £400 extra.  Never bought new before though so don't know how protective I'd be with pupils driving!  Seriously considering it. smile

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#22 13-08-10 09:14:14

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Re: New Honda jazz

Check with Honda whether the guaranteed resale price applies to our proffession. I know with a Toyota i bought in 2008 it didn't.


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#23 13-08-10 18:05:20

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Re: New Honda jazz

Will do, thanks x

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#24 14-08-10 09:28:09

kaf
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Re: New Honda jazz

Bear

Test drove a 1.25 Jazz last weekend and loved it.  Tells you when to change up or down the gears when at optimum revs with a lit up green arrow!  Is this ok for use on test?  They can offer you a guaranteed 3yr resale price too.  Comes standard in red, any other colour costs £400 extra.  Never bought new before though so don't know how protective I'd be with pupils driving!  Seriously considering it. smile

Bear in mind the 1.2 version does not have seat height adjustment, steering wheel rake adjustment or air con.

the 1.4 ES is by far the best spec for your money.

The gear change symbol is no problem for tests, most of my pupils do not even know it's there!

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#25 12-11-12 09:28:21

kaf
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Re: New Honda jazz

Well after 4 years, it's time for a car change.

What else but another Jazz. 3 years interest free credit, 3 years free servicing  and 1,000 off list price, plus a very fair Px for my current car.

All in all an excellent ownership experience.

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