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#101 29-11-09 21:23:14

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

Well, that sounds like we are more on the same wave length.

As last Friday I had yet another pupil say those illustrious words.

' I want to give it a go'.......

When will they learn that by giving it a go means they will fail :evil:, in many many many years of teaching ive only had one person prove me wrong.


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#102 29-11-09 23:47:49

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

Well, that sounds like we are more on the same wave length.

As last Friday I had yet another pupil say those illustrious words.

' I want to give it a go'.......

When will they learn that by giving it a go means they will fail :evil:, in many many many years of teaching ive only had one person prove me wrong.

The way you persuade, indoctrinate, brain wash is up to you, one thing is for sure; it's for their own good, and you only do what you good at...making them a better driver with less likelihood of a crash thus saving them thousands of pounds in their and their families material wealth as well a mental health. 


Scraping the test is no way cheap, nor is having a cheap instructor, but learning to drive however much you pay is the cheapest thing in motoring.
Went to drive a Ferrari for 4 laps yesterday at a cost of a £100. I floored the car as I had to listen to the instructor and you are not allowed to change down unless he says  roll(darn auto gears too...crap)...I can go faster on my bike  roll Four laps!!! I was just warming up...and the place was full.


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#103 03-12-09 14:29:09

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

I notice that the A2om Fleet link is now working for those interested parties.

The website seems a little confusing....Assuming this is where people will visit first, or at least will gain the most information there does not seem to be anything being sold, rather a case of passing on information.

Between this and all the other sites there does not seem to be any consistency between website to show that they are one in the same.


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#104 11-12-09 15:58:31

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

A2om Police page has also gone live now.

Its interesing to note that the survey done on Mobile Phones was also done in the Thames Valley Police area and noted a marked reduction in mobile phone use with their policy of education rather than fines being given to drivers.

Im still not getting the A2om website now, and I cannot see why they have a link to the Thames Valley police....Learners and Fleet is very clear.

Anyone with any clues?


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#105 29-03-10 21:01:46

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

www.a2om.com has taken on a new design, and showing the link to the AA.

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#106 31-03-10 08:58:47

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

I think the product and software are excellent and I am happy to be associated with it. However the £175 cost of the course does put people off. I haven't had any requests for this despite the potential insurance savings. Or referrals from A2om, despite their massive mail shoting and advertising .
A lot of pupils would rather pay three times that for  'intensive' courses. That's despite  me advertising the course anywhere I can. I'd be interested in knowing how many pupils people are getting for this course and any tips for attracting pupils.



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#107 31-03-10 18:31:33

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

Evening Tiber,

You raise some interesting points.

At first glance, £175 for the BTEC may appear expensive. But once your students have achieved it you will, in addition, be able to issue them with a Pass Plus certificate. With the post test module of the BTEC under their belt, they will have exceeded the DSA PP requirements. And how much do you currently charge for your Pass Plus course?

Far more worrying, is the a2om press release of Feb 2010 which states "The AA Driving School.......will provide nationwide delivery of the in car lessons for a2om's BTEC in Driving Science".

In other words, school students who now have access to the free software currently being rolled out to all 16 year olds, will be directed to their local AA instructor for practical tuition. Only if none is available, will an a2om affiliate instructor be notified.

My apologies if you are an AA instructor!

Larry

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#108 31-03-10 20:30:20

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

The DSA certainly seem to be making a push for the Pass Plus at the moment.

Whilst I would welcome the promotional capabilities of the AA driving school, it does kind of leave other affiliates in the lurch from potential new leads other than our own self sourced BTEC'ers.

My aim is to hopefully this year purchase a laptop, but with the home computer nearly on its way out after 10hard years of labour, im struggling to find the cash. Try telling the wife the laptop is more important than a holiday lol

I think its paramount for promoting something which is in itself very much computer based.

There is a gradual shift coming in this profession towards a more coaching based lesson, rather than just driving around in circles.

That shift has slowed a little with the recession, but when things eventually improve it would be nice to be ready.


So, id go for the incar sale showing the full potential on laptop, and as larry said, take it further by linking Pass Plus, which of course they would want to do aynway.


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#109 31-03-10 20:33:27

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

I don't think it means that tiber......... A2om say they operate a rank system for assigning candidates in any area so there is nothing that officially says they will only give them to AA trainers.. That would be wrong and mean anyone who did the BTEC course wouldn't get any work out of it even if people wanted to do it.

It is more likely that getting national schools involved will attract more candidates and these will be assigned out to everyone.

Isn't it correct that anyone wanting to do the BTEC has to contact A2om and not the AA?

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#110 31-03-10 20:44:33

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

I'm not sure how a2om plan to deliver candiates to affiliates, I get told very little :cry:

I would like to think there is a fair system and that noone gets any unfair advantage as there are many others schools, not as big as the AA doing very well promoting the BTEC to their customers.

Perhaps someone from the AA could answer that question, as they seem to have gone very quiete over the BTEC/AA issue.


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#111 31-03-10 21:02:26

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

I'd have thought A2om would be in the best position to answer it seeing as they are the ones who deal with it and dish out the work if any of it ever happens.

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#112 31-03-10 22:03:01

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

It seems to be all or nothing from a2om.

One minute Im bombarded with emails and im given immediate responses the next I do not here anything for weeks.

Hey Ho....Soon be my holiday big_smile


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#113 02-04-10 17:47:32

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

it's really a shame that it's not fully recognised as a BTEC course.

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#114 15-06-10 17:37:15

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

BTECH is now being promoted on the AA Website big_smile

Will now see how things go.  8-)


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#115 24-06-10 21:39:31

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

BTECH is now being promoted on the AA Website big_smile

Will now see how things go.  8-)

It would be good to get some feedback.

Ive heard nothing from a2om for about 6 months now, feel somewhat let down.

It would be good to see such a project really take off, but with the AA's support it does leave other independents a little far behind.

Im still yet to find a pupil who has heard of the e-learning from their schools.


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#116 09-07-10 07:50:56

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Re: a2om - btec driving science

Find your nearest

Seems like the AA are everywhere. neutral


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