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#1 09-07-08 17:32:47

andrews manchester
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death by dangerous cycling

just been watching news can you believe there is no prison sentence for killing someone on a bicycle i think we should bring a petition to change the law

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#2 09-07-08 20:04:14

adi
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Re: death by dangerous cycling

wait until i mow down a few enemies first big_smile

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#3 09-07-08 20:17:25

andrews manchester
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Re: death by dangerous cycling

on a serious note this topic a young girl was killed by a cyclist at 23mph he thought it was ok just to shout move and then hit this girl, instead of dismounting which he could do and this young girl would still be alive he just got fined £2200 and that was it as the law does not allow, the judge to sentence him

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#4 10-07-08 06:41:37

Pilgrim
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Re: death by dangerous cycling

Hi

I would agree that cyclists need to be trained to a similar standard as car & bikes. It has started but bikeability is only in its infantcy. Heres hopeing things might change.

Tony


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#5 10-07-08 08:28:38

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Re: death by dangerous cycling

on a serious note this topic a young girl was killed by a cyclist at 23mph he thought it was ok just to shout move and then hit this girl, instead of dismounting which he could do and this young girl would still be alive he just got fined £2200 and that was it as the law does not allow, the judge to sentence him

One of the problems is the reporting of the case by the media.  I read 17mph.  The cyclist on the approach was on the road (as seen on cctv).  This girl was one of a group of youths that had been drinking at the park and they would hardly be independent witnesses.

There must have been some extenuating factors otherwise the CPS would have prosecuted him for manslaughter which could have resulted in a prison sentence.

Nigel


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#6 10-07-08 19:25:42

den676
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Re: death by dangerous cycling

Hi

I would agree that cyclists need to be trained to a similar standard as car & bikes. It has started but bikeability is only in its infantcy. Heres hopeing things might change.

Tony

How would this be enforced?

We get lots of mini motor bikes round our way. No tax, insurance etc and the police can do nothing.

Far more cyclists are killed by motorists and it seems women who are more likely to stick to the rules are the the most likely to get killed.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 695668.ece

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#7 10-07-08 23:20:29

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Re: death by dangerous cycling

That's a loophole in the law really isn't it?

You don't need a licence to cycle so you can't get banned. If you kill someone by dangerous cycling the worst that can happen to you is a £2500 fine.

So if you've got a fairly big disposable income, and any enemies you want 'bumped off', go get yourself a push bike...

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#8 11-07-08 07:45:17

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Re: death by dangerous cycling

you could get banned - would need to be included within the terms of an ASBO.  However I agree things should be tightened up - however as already stated the thing has probably been twisted by the media with all blame being put on the cyclist.

Just recently a young boy was hit and killed in my area, the local rag claimed it was a hit n run etc.  It turned out the child had actually walked out infront of a driver (who stayed at the scene).

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#9 12-07-08 07:23:03

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Re: death by dangerous cycling

You can be done for being Drunk In Charge or something on a push bike. Something needs to be done to recognise that there seriously fast cyclists as well as pootlers, especially as the government want to encourage bike use.

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#10 12-07-08 11:00:45

ExAdiNigel
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Re: death by dangerous cycling

....You don't need a licence to cycle so you can't get banned. If you kill someone by dangerous cycling the worst that can happen to you is a £2500 fine.....

Is that true?  Or are we being a little 'red top' about this?

Nigel


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