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#1 30-12-06 10:47:12

Zipper
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End of an Era

Midnight December 31st 2006 marks the end of an era in the Northern Territory, Australia.
Until then the Stuart Highway (and any other outback road) had an unrestricted speed limit, meaning any speed you like as long as it's safe - all 1,700 or 1,800 km of it (don't know the exact figure), this length is punctuated by 3 minor towns and a few very small ones.

Meaning, a popular place to get out in your super-fast expensive car, and let 'er rip!

Also popular with local & international car manufacturers who had the opportunity to test their offerings at very high (legal) speeds and in very harsh climatic conditions.

It comes to an end with the end of 2006 - after that the default non-urban limit will be 130km/h (about 80mph) causing much outrage from the local citizenry, not to mention the car manufacturers.

This is done in a bid to cut our appalling death toll which is the highest in Australia (by a factor of 3), and Oz itself ranks high in the list of developed countries for death per capita.

Unfortunately, accidents on the open road don't account for such a high percentage of our N.T. fatalities although they ARE spectacular when they occur. I see the point in restricting the maximum speed, but the authorities are leaving themselves open to unneeded criticism by focussing off-target. Most of our serious crashes occur on suburban roads.

Todays paper front page (Saturday 30th Dec 2006) is split into two parts. Left hand column shows a pic of the new BMW M5 sports sedan being road tested at a legal 275km/h (170mph), helicopter flying overhead, cut-out pic in corner of BMW speedo showing 275 (for the infidels... believe!). The left-hand headline is: "ONE LAST BLAST"

The right hand column carries the headline: "Police set for New Year Blitz".  They are going to target anti-social driving behaviour - right on the mark!

Anyway the N.T. is becoming a hot-bed of debate, passions are fired up.

Sorry about this long post but as you can see, the world of cars is changing. Is there any point to producing cars that can go well over the legal limit of most developed countries?

Over to you.


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#2 30-12-06 15:16:56

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Re: End of an Era

Is there any point to producing cars that can go well over the legal limit of most developed countries?

Over to you.

No there isn't, but that's how the manufacture's make em so we have to live with it.

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#3 07-01-07 09:29:48

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Re: End of an Era

Hey all, intesting post, i did not realise this was the case re: speed limits.  I did cuckle to myself though, lol!  If its 1800k's odd, how the **** is anyone going to police that speed limit anyway?

In anycase, sounds like its pretty dire on accident rates.

Strange post re: why do manufacturers make cars capable of exeeding limts, can see the point of the question, but in reality (although i dont speed, and would not recommend it) the faster cars, actually are safer.  Most safety features have come from formula one for example, so ABC, stablility and traction control would probably not exist without places for manufacturers to try out cars like this.

Also these ares are built to take larger impacts, and have better brakes, can corner better (so have more grip) and are more secure in high winds and dangerous driving conditions.

Also the economy/safety factor, and drivability factor.  If you have a reasonable amount of power, you can accelerate quicker where it is safe to do so.  THey also require less revs to mainain a reasonable speed, thus producing less co2 (in some cases e.g. desiels)

I bet holden arent impressed?


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#4 07-01-07 09:50:33

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Re: End of an Era

That's a good point ijmoore.
If you had posted it say, 10 years ago I would have agreed unreservedly. These days I'm in the twilight zone so to speak.

A few years ago the only way to limit a car's top speed was by a simple speed-limiter - simple, primitive and often with a rather abrupt cut-off (as in heavy vehicles). Not particularly safe.

These days it should be within any modern manufacturer's ability to produce a vehicle with all the attributes necessary for  high speed, but with a progressive fade-out of permormance based on the vehicle approaching the nominated maximum speed !!!


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#5 07-01-07 10:31:43

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Re: End of an Era

Well the germans have nominated 155 as a top speed, which is still rather swift! At least they have the sense to limit their cars.  I suppose though their autobahns are unlimited, but they are also particually well maintained and serviced.  They have highway cleaners, and maintance people responsible for specific sections, and with people doing high speed, i guess they need it.  Do you know if they have compulsary motorway training?


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#6 07-01-07 21:52:58

Zipper
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Re: End of an Era

....their autobahns are unlimited, but they are also particually well maintained and serviced.  They have highway cleaners, and maintance people responsible for specific sections, and with people doing high speed, i guess they need it...

Our main highway is not comparable to an autobahn. though our locals seem to think it is as it's one of their arguments against introducing a speed limit. We don't have the carefully designed & maintained shoulders, it's only a single lane each direction, mainly unfenced with wandering livestock & native animals, and carries the world's longest trucks speed limited to 100k/h (supposedly). There are a few "passing lanes" in some of the hilly bits, but not enough of them.

Another point which our locals miss out on is that the average Aussie motorists are less disciplined than Germans, especially here in the "free & easy" Great Outback.

...Do you know if they have compulsory motorway training?

Don't know, I do know their learners have to have a compulsory number of professionally-provided driving lessons. It wouldn't surprise me if motorway training was part of it.


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#7 21-03-08 18:17:49

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Re: End of an Era

No there isn't, but that's how the manufacture's make em so we have to live with it.

So you would prefer communism would you? roll


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#8 21-03-08 21:02:22

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Re: End of an Era

No there isn't, but that's how the manufacture's make em so we have to live with it.

So you would prefer communism would you? roll

And you obviously have not learnt a thing have you Flynn, and bringing up OLD postings is a trate of yours isn't it.??  roll

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#9 22-03-08 01:12:48

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Re: End of an Era

This topic is only 18 months old big_smile

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