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#1 29-08-04 01:22:06

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CITRËON C2

Do you use a CITRËON C2?

If so, tell us what you think about the car...

Pro's and cons of using the car for instruction.

What model do you use? (Eg. 1.4 Diesel)

How much does it cost to run?

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#2 01-05-05 19:17:14

simon8971
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Re: CITRËON C2

Anybody have any experience or knowledge of the C2 as a driving school car? Really like the look of them and have heard mainly good things about them generally but was wondering why I hadn't seen many being used as training vehicles. Haven't got as far as test driving one yet. Just fancied something a little  more unusual to stand out from the (ever increasing) crowd!

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#3 14-04-08 13:02:06

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Re: CITRËON C2

Does no one on this forum use a C2. There are a number used in my area but not had a chance to ask any instructors their opinion, so any feedback on here would be good.

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#4 16-04-08 06:06:33

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Re: CITRËON C2

I have looked at the Citreons before, however not in too much detail! C2 and C3 looked a little to small (in my opinion) however the C4 looked favourable!
Prices are very good, and my understanding is that they are very reliable smile


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#5 16-04-08 17:12:32

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Re: CITRËON C2

That's a first! I've never seen the words "Citroen" and "Reliable" used in the same sentence before.... big_smile :evil:


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#6 16-04-08 18:50:01

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Re: CITRËON C2

Surely a spelling mistake  big_smile big_smile

Citroens are incedibly unreliable and very poorly constructed, bottom of the French league and thats saying something! Parts are often difficult to obtain if (Sorry when ) they break.

I know one instructor waited 10 weeks for a bulb.


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#7 16-04-08 19:31:01

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Re: CITRËON C2

I know one instructor waited 10 weeks for a bulb.

Probably being delivered in a Citroen lorry.... tongue tongue


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#8 16-04-08 20:16:16

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Re: CITRËON C2

They are cheap but they can also be relatively cheerful - I had a couple in my pre-adi days and loved them. My AX did over 100,000 miles relatively reliably.

However, the ones with the fancy suspension are well worth avoiding because they cost a fortune to fix, parts are extremely rare over here and they depreciate more than 2nd hand toilet roll.

I tried out the C2 which I really wasn't keen on, bit like the Aygo and C1 in that it feels like you're dragging your bum on the ground in a tin can.

The C3 isn't bad, though the trim is very plasticcy and the manual gearbox is horribly soupy.

If you go for one - haggle very very hard.

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#9 13-09-08 21:39:54

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Re: CITRËON C2

Well, despite some of the negative comments about the C2 I looked around at used models and considered a VTS 1.6 HDI with 15k miles. Tested it and was impressed but thought the 1.4HDI VTR would be better suited and a lot cheaper. Did some more research and saw Citroen was offering 0% finance on new cars, did a little more digging and found a dealer who would supply one with over £2k off list price. (includes £1200 factory discount). 
I had a 2005 54 plate Clio 1.5 80bhp Dci which I really liked and was fairly reliable, and sold that privately for £300 more than the best trade in price offered (the VTS). I had to pick the car up nearly 300 miles from where I live near Newcastle but got a train ticket for £27 and enjoyed the day off.
I've use it foe a week and all of my pupils love it. With sport seats and wheel adjustments (hight and reach) it can accommodate all in comfort, the steering is well weighted for learners, the digital speedo is easy to see for myself and pupils say it is easier for them to keep to limits, it rides better than the Clio (especially speed humps), it has a better turning circle, the gearbox is a little notchy but some pupils prefer it and no-one has made a negative comment, the brakes are initially a little spongy compared to the Clio but bite hard after that which a couple have taken a few miles to get used to as is the case with the light clutch compared with the really heavy Clio. Rear seat and boot space is of course very limited but that is unimportant to me and rear vision isn't as good as the Clio but very few new cars are and it hasn't affected any of the manoeuvres, I have just had to amend the reference points a little. The kerbside appeal of the car is very good with everyone commenting on how nice it looks (I chose bright red as a colleague has a black one and black is quickly becoming the new silver) and I am sure I will have no problem selling it in a couple of years time. It is a little under powered compared to the Clio, especially from low revs when going uphill but again I can live with that. Economy is good with the computer showing 55mpg and service intervals are 20K miles although I will do an oil change at 10k as well.
Obviously I can't comment on reliability but so far I am extremely pleased with my purchase and on the above  findings so far I would recommend the C2 whole heartedly.
If anyone is interested in any Citroen at discounted prices you can pm me and I will supply the dealers name.
 

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#10 14-09-08 08:56:18

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Re: CITRËON C2

Thats all Citreon dealers!


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#11 15-04-09 16:42:51

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Re: CITRËON C2

I have had my C2 1.4HDI VTR since June 2008 and I have to say I am impressed, with up to 76mpg on a long run and an average of 55.4 MPG, including lessons around town according to the computer. I am currently spending aprox £48.00 per week based on a 5 day week and getting around 500 miles out of the tank. I have found little to complain about. Good styling and great all round visibility has made it a hit with all my pupils so far... Ok the windows rattle if you lower them half way and it has to be said that it has the worlds cheapest radio! but appart from that its all good. being 6"2 I find pleanty of room inside and the seats accomadate both my bigger and smaller sized pupils with ease. When I come to change the car I will stick with the C2 however I will go for the 1.6 HDi instead.
All said "A jolly good little car"!!

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#12 15-04-09 21:03:58

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Re: CITRËON C2

I'm glad someone else has posted positive comments. I have had the car for seven months and have done 26k miles and I am just as pleased as I was in my last post. I did a 10k oil change and took it to an independent Citroen specialist for the 20k service and was charged £130, very reasonable in my opinion. Nothing has dropped off or broken and 100% reliable. All of my pupils have liked it and two that I know of have bought one. Yes the windows rattle a little when open but that is the only thing that does. I am also 6 foot 2 and not exactly small framed and there is more than enough room up front and I even sat in on a test last week and there is more headroom than in the Clio.
I have also spoken to other instructors who all have favorable comments.

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#13 15-04-09 21:28:28

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Re: CITRËON C2

Sorry i think the c2 is great but i have always believed if the manufaturor reccomends a service every 20k that is what i will do i do not see any benefit in changing the oil at 10 thousand miles if the company who give the warranty say it should just be serviced at 20k that is what i would do after all they have spent alot of money reserching and testing the car for all reliability issues i would trust there opinion and follow there service scehdules.

#14 15-04-09 22:00:29

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Re: CITRËON C2

Double oil changes will dramatically increase an engines lifespan, 20 K is way to long, especially for a driving school car.


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#15 21-04-09 19:43:19

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Re: CITRËON C2

Have you ever looked at the oil that comes out of the engine after 10k miles? For what it costs for fresh oil and a filter why wouldn't you if you know how?

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#16 21-04-09 20:29:05

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I would trust what the manufaturer reccomends on the service schedule they would not suggest anything that was unessersary like changing the oil when not needed.


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#17 21-04-09 21:48:18

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Re: CITRËON C2

I think oil technology has improved a lot and many new cars (VW, Audi, BMW) to name a few use variable servicing and will allow you up to 20K. I believe they have sensors that detect the quality of the oil so if you are a low milage user often it will flag up an oil change is needed sooner.

My other thought though is manufactures are under pressure to 'lower' maintenance costs to make lease deals more attractive as service contacts will be less expensive. I do wonder though if this is at the expense of extra wear and tear on the engine.

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#18 16-11-09 15:18:31

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Re: CITRËON C2

Got a 1.4hdi VERY good price with aircon and black paint. had it over a year 25000 miles.
A bit rattly but no problems reliability wise. Small in back for sitting in on tests. Poor visibility out of rear side windows for parking manouver.
VERY good fuel economy (55mpg on lessons, 65mpg on a decent run) and low tax

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#19 11-09-10 16:33:08

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Re: CITRËON C2

I have now had my C2 for two years and 85k miles and my previous comments still stand.

The car has been 100% reliable, the only thing that has been replaced other than service items has been an electric door mirror switch which broke due to a heavy handed student. A replacement from Citroen was going to charge about £40! but I got a new one off e-bay for a tenner.

Only one of the supplied tyres didn't need replacing due to damage, the front offside, and lasted 55k miles. I have continued to replace the oil every 10k and am now on my forth set of front pads although the last set were still fine but the discs needed changing so I put new pads in also. I use Halfords for oil and filters as my daughter has a trade card, but she was on holiday when I got the disks so I used Euro Car Parts, and their prices are very reasonable. The timing belt does not need changing until 140K miles by which time I will have moved on.

This has been my first Citroen and have no hesitation in recommending them. I am looking at maybe a DS3 next time, although they are quite expensive so havn't quite made up my mind yet.

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#20 21-08-11 18:01:33

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Re: CITRËON C2

Further to my previous posts:

I have just changed my C2 for a Seat Ibiza 1.6 diesel.

The Citroen had just passed 120,000 miles and as before has been almost 100% reliable. Another student broke the door mirror switch again but was replaced cheaply from e-bay. The right turn signal stopped self cancelling and needed the whole coms unit changed which again was bought from e-bay and fitted myself. The drivers sun visor was getting a bit floppy so I replaced it with one from a scrap yard.
And that, my friends, has been the the sole extent of of replacement parts other than general service items.
The clutch was still biting sharply, although as you would expect a little higher up than when new and the engine sounded and pulled as well as ever with no black smoke and fuel consumption now up to 58.8 mpg, (just loosening up) thanks partly, I am sure, to my regular oil changes.

I would have loved to replace it with a DS3 but couldn't justify the cost, even for a nearly new, so went for a low mileage Seat and will keep you posted  on how that fairs.

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#21 21-08-11 18:18:03

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Re: CITRËON C2

Sounds as though you could have a secondary job fixing and servicing cars if you wanted big_smile


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#22 21-08-11 18:21:54

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Re: CITRËON C2

I can only do simple stuff, that's why I'm an instructor. Lol

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#23 12-02-12 22:31:12

graham121150
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Re: CITRËON C2

I also do All my own maintenance, Saves time, and money.


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